Caution: Windows wants access to your Google Account

I recently purchased a second hand refurbished Windows 10 Pro laptop. As Windows 7 support is ending, I've decided to put all of my music activities into one dedicated laptop. On this new laptop, I've had my .mp3 collection and the database program in use for a few weeks.

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I've used iTunes on Windows 7, so went to the iTunes website to download the latest version. IIRC previously the download was from the iTunes website, but I was directed to a Microsoft website, which required a login to a Microsoft account. This caused a few problems at the time and now I notice that the local account on that laptop has without my permission been changed to an Outlook.com account, so now some more effort to remove it!

The worrying thing is that during this process Windows requested my permission to "permanently delete your email from Gmail".



This is most worrying. Needless to say, I did not allow Windows access.

Normal procedure when setting up any client.

I don't understand your reply - "setting up any client", I was just installing another program!

My wife and I have installed many programs on our W 10 laptops and never had this happen before.

What has changed?

Landyman said:

I recently purchased a second hand refurbished Windows 10 Pro laptop. As Windows 7 support is ending, I've decided to put all of my music activities into one dedicated laptop. On this new laptop, I've had my .mp3 collection and the database program in use for a few weeks.

Music Collector - Music Collector desktop software - Catalog CDs and vinyl on your PC or Mac - Collectorz.com

I've used iTunes on Windows 7, so went to the iTunes website to download the latest version. IIRC previously the download was from the iTunes website, but I was directed to a Microsoft website, which required a login to a Microsoft account. This caused a few problems at the time and now I notice that the local account on that laptop has without my permission been changed to an Outlook.com account, so now some more effort to remove it!

The worrying thing is that during this process Windows requested my permission to "permanently delete your email from Gmail".



This is most worrying. Needless to say, I did not allow Windows access.

Not to be funny but I think you're confused on a few things here.

1- "now I notice that the local account on that laptop has without my permission been changed to an Outlook.com account"

This does not happen without permission because you have to agree to a few things. Additionally, you'll need to have Office 365 installed and activated in order to get a "Outlook.com" account.

2 - "IRC previously the download was from the iTunes website, but I was directed to a Microsoft website, which required a login to a Microsoft account."

Once you created your Microsoft Account and logged into it you moved from "local account" to the Microsoft (online) Account you created. With that I have to ask are you sure you aren't confusing the Microsoft account with an Outlook.com account?

• Microsoft Account
• What Is Outlook.com?

Once Windows went live (Microsoft Account) it started looking at what apps you have installed and asking permissions. One obviously has to do with your G-mail account.

And what that "permanently delete your email from Gmail" basically means is that if you decide to delete an email from within Windows, it has permission to do so. It does not and will not just willy nilly delete you g-mail. I've got a G-mail account setup within Outlook on my PC and never once was an email deleted unless I told the app to do so.

I think you need to understand the differences between a Microsoft Account vs. Local Account. And as you found out in order to download anything from the Microsoft Store, you need a Microsoft Account.

sygnus21 said:

Not to be funny but I think you're confused on a few things here.

Quite possibly!

1- "now I notice that the local account on that laptop has without my permission been changed to an Outlook.com account"

This does not happen without permission because you have to agree to a few things. Additionally, you'll need to have Office 365 installed and activated in order to get a "Outlook.com" account.

When I setup this new Windows 10 laptop, I deliberately chose a local account. Weeks later when installing iTunes, I was not aware that I was changing the laptop's account and did not knowingly give permission. I did agree to the usual licence conditions for iTunes, but like most folk, I did not read them fully.

I do not have Office 365 installed on this "music activities .... dedicated laptop". It will never have e-mail capability as it's dedicated to music only. Incidentally, my Wife and I have 4 or 5 licenced copies of Microsoft Office 2010 - the full versions including Access and Publisher on other laptops. So have never needed to use Office 365.

2 - "IRC previously the download was from the iTunes website, but I was directed to a Microsoft website, which required a login to a Microsoft account."

Once you created your Microsoft Account and logged into it you moved from "local account" to the Microsoft (online) Account you created. With that I have to ask are you sure you aren't confusing the Microsoft account with an Outlook.com account?

• Microsoft Account
• What Is Outlook.com?

Once Windows went live (Microsoft Account) it started looking at what apps you have installed and asking permissions. One obviously has to do with your G-mail account.

My Microsoft account was started many years ago, well over four years ago, as my notes (name, P/W etc) include an old Postcode. I can't remember why it was setup. It was not to get an outlook.com e-mail address, as I still have never sent from that address, nor given that address to anyone.

So I did not create my Microsoft Account to download iTunes. I probably am confusing the Microsoft account with an Outlook.com account. I've looked at those two links and get the impression that these two Microsoft accounts are similar to Gmail, which has since I joined, had a bunch of other Google bits added, to make it a Google account.

I think you need to understand the differences between a Microsoft Account vs. Local Account. And as you found out in order to download anything from the Microsoft Store, you need a Microsoft Account.

I've looked at that link. It confirms, that for me, a local account is best. Many thanks for your reply.

Landyman said:

When I setup this new Windows 10 laptop, I deliberately chose a local account. Weeks later when installing iTunes, I was not aware that I was changing the laptop's account and did not knowingly give permission. I did agree to the usual licence conditions for iTunes, but like most folk, I did not read them fully.

When you created the Microsoft Account and logged in with it you moved from local (where certain apps didn't access the internet) to Live where they now do. You can always go back to your local account if you wish.

I do not have Office 365 installed on this "music activities .... dedicated laptop". It will never have e-mail capability as it's dedicated to music only. Incidentally, my Wife and I have 4 or 5 licenced copies of Microsoft Office 2010 - the full versions including Access and Publisher on other laptops. So have never needed to use Office 365.

I need to clarify something I said earlier. You can actually have an Outlook.com account if you had or have a Hotmail or Windows Live account as Microsoft converted these to Outlook.com. With that, that leads me to a question for you? Did you use an existing Hotmail or Live account credential to create your Microsoft Account?

Anyway as noted the Outlook account is only for email, whereas the Microsoft Account is for a myriad of Microsoft services including logging into Windows. BTW it is possible to use the same email / password (as I do) to log into either.

So I did not create my Microsoft Account to download iTunes. I probably am confusing the Microsoft account with an Outlook.com account.

If you downloaded iTunes from the Microsoft Store (and you did because even Apple directs you to the store for Windows based iTunes downloads), you had to have a Microsoft account to do so. I'm not sure you can even enter the store without one, but you definitely can't download anything from there without a Microsoft Account.

And as explained about Outlook.com and a Microsoft account are two different entities (though you can use the same log in credentials).

I've looked at those two links and get the impression that these two Microsoft accounts are similar to Gmail, which has since I joined, had a bunch of other Google bits added, to make it a Google account.

I'm not sure what you mean? Anyway the only Google stuff I have on my PC is my G-mail account attached to Outlook account. Also, G-mail does not "automatically" attach itself to your PC or any of its app; you have tp do this yourself. That also means giving the PC permission to access it and do stuff like delete your email (per your request)

I've looked at that link. It confirms, that for me, a local account is best. Many thanks for your reply.

No problem :)