Replacing SSD In Dell XPS Laptop And Windows 10 Pro Installation?

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  1. Posts : 167
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    You have to be careful with parts for a Dell. In other words you can't just go an buy any old ssd, memory or battery. Your best bet is to go to the Dell forums for any information on parts. I just dumped my one and only Dell product when it died just before one year was up. What turned me off was getting drivers that would work using the correct information for the laptop or them informing me that there was an update which crashed the thing.
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  2. Posts : 598
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    Hi. I will be buying a new laptop battery, new 500gb or 1tb m.2 ssd and new 16gb ram. I will make sure its compatible with my xps 15 9550.


    So i want to know, is me getting those parts myself good enough.
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    I have several rehabbed Dell machines, both Desktops and Notebooks. I frequently use Crucial memory in them if I have enough to double what they came with. Kingston is also good as is Samsung, some OEMs come with Hynix and they are good. But I only use memory in matching pairs, don't need the sometimes-unexplained issues with unmatched modules.
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  4. Posts : 598
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    Well getting 16gb memory is not going to be big issue. I see they have it on amazon and its crucial so it would be 8gb sticks of 2 each.


    But for the m.2 ssd... just get the 1tb one for future proof right? Even though 500gb is more than enough for most? My 250gb is running out of space.


    Now how tough is cloning? Does it cause a ton of problems? What i do like is when people say if you clone it... it would be like you turning on your laptop and it looks exactly like how it looks now. So instead of it showing 30gb free of 232gb, it would show like 760gb free of 960gb on the m.2 1tb ssd right?


    If i do the macrium image copy, well i would have to install windows 10 and pro again right? But this is the safer route?


    I googled cloning and read lot of issues with it. So would you recommend that? I have to spend some money buying things to do this right? At the moment, i do have a 2.5 inch hard drive enclosure.
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    paulyjustin said: View Post
    Now how tough is cloning? Does it cause a ton of problems? What i do like is when people say if you clone it... it would be like you turning on your laptop and it looks exactly like how it looks now. So instead of it showing 30gb free of 232gb, it would show like 760gb free of 960gb on the m.2 1tb ssd right?
    For cloning SSD drives I've gone a strictly hardware method. I use an Eaxer USB3 drive dock which I can have a mix of 2 x 2.5" or 3.5" drives to copy or backup data, clean, format, etc. It also has 3 x USB3 ports on its front.

    The main reason I obtained it is the mechanical cloning feature, it DOES NOT work when the USB is plugged into a computer. The cloning is accomplished strictly within the device and the source drive has to have no data errors. An example is 250GB Source drive with a 1TB Destination drive. The dock cloned the 250GB drive and all its partitions to the first 250GB of the 1TB drive leaving just less than 750GB that after booting to that cloned drive let me use Disk Management to create a partition of that allocated space and format it. Works unattended and quite nice.

    It doesn't physically work with the M.2 or NVME drives but I'm not into those yet.
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    Berton, this would be an option for a m.2. RIITOP PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD to USB Adapter Card with USB 3.1 Type C and Type A Dual Ports (No Need Cable) for Samsung 970 960 series WD Black Intel Crucial NVMe M key SSD - Newegg.com . I got one of these to clone the drive for my NVIDIA Shield and use it for backups on the desktop to a 120gb SSD. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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    paulyjustin said: View Post


    If i do the macrium image copy, well i would have to install windows 10 and pro again right? But this is the safer route?
    No.

    If you have Win 10 Pro now and make an image of that, you will have Win 10 Pro after you restore that image.

    I'd guess there are fewer issues with imaging than cloning, but either can work or fail.
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  8. Posts : 598
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    ignatzatsonic said: View Post
    No.

    If you have Win 10 Pro now and make an image of that, you will have Win 10 Pro after you restore that image.

    I'd guess there are fewer issues with imaging than cloning, but either can work or fail.
    Wait a minute. So if i do the image of it... i make the copy of it on an external hard drive right? Then save it there?


    So then when i get the 500gb or 1tb m.2 ssd, then i remove the 2.5 inch 250gb ssd and the 32gb m.2. Then put the new m.2 in it. Then i power it on and install windows 10 home as is when following the instructions? Once i do that, connect my external hard drive to the laptop... then use that image ... and restore it on computer... then now my computer would look exactly like how it does now?


    Is this correct? If that is the case, is image better than the cloning then?
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    see comments:

    paulyjustin said: View Post
    Wait a minute. So if i do the image of it... i make the copy of it on an external hard drive right? Then save it there?

    In Macrium, you would make an image file of all partitions on your current drive and save that file on the external. The file has an .mrimg extension.


    So then when i get the 500gb or 1tb m.2 ssd, then i remove the 2.5 inch 250gb ssd and the 32gb m.2.

    Where is your current Windows installation and your programs? On the 250 gb SSD? On the 32 gb M2? Or spread over both?

    Are they 2 totally different drives or is this some sort of a weirdo "hybrid" drive setup?


    Then put the new m.2 in it. Then i power it on and install windows 10 home as is when following the instructions?

    No, no, no. Why would you "install windows 10 home" when you just made an image of your existing installation? What do you think the purpose of making an image is?

    Once i do that, connect my external hard drive to the laptop... then use that image... and restore it on computer... then now my computer would look exactly like how it does now?

    You would have to boot your computer from Macrium rescue media because you have removed the old hard drive. Then restore the image to the new SSD.

    Yes, if the image restore goes well and you included ALL partitions in your image file, your computer would look the same, but you would have more free space. When you restore the image, you are restoring Windows 10 and everything else in your chosen partitions. That's why you would NOT install Windows 10 on the new hard drive.

    If imaging and cloning both fail, then yes, you would have to install Windows 10 and all applications directly on the new drive WITHOUT using Macrium.

    You should have a plan something like this:

    Try cloning. If it fails, try imaging. If it fails, do a clean install.



    Is this correct? If that is the case, is image better than the cloning then?

    The end result of cloning and imaging is about the same---you have effectively "copied" everything from the old drive to the new drive. If both succeed, neither is "better". If only one succeeds, it is obviously better than the one that fails. You cannot know which will work or fail until you make the attempt.

    Know what you will do if both fail.

    The first thing you need to figure out is to understand exactly what your current hard drive situation is. You say you have a 250 gb SSD and a 32 gb M2 . That sounds like a strange setup. I have NO IDEA what is on those drives, where C is, where your applications are, where your data is, etc.

    The details of that might affect the success of your cloning or imaging attempts.

    That's another can of worms.

    Rather than spend 100 hours on posts about that, you might just say to hell with it and do a clean install in the new SSD.

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  10. Posts : 598
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    ignatzatsonic said: View Post
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    My windows installation and all the programs are on the 2.5 inch 250gb ssd. The only thing that i have on the 32gb m.2 is like 6gb worth of music i transferred from my 250gb ssd to the 32gb m.2 because i am running out of space on the 250gb ssd. My 32gb m.2 is basically useless as i previously never kept anything there. Any programs i download online etc goes straight to my 2.5 inch 250gb ss.


    Its 2 totally different drives. But it might be hybrid setup? When i got the laptop years ago, i saw it came with a 1tb 7200rpm hard drive and a 32gb m.2 ssd. I had zero clue what the 32gb m.2 ssd was because i didn't know what was a m.2 ssd.


    The thing was i was going to replace the 1tb 7200 rpm hard drive with an old samsung 2.5 inch 250gb ssd that i been using for a long time. I had wiped the 2.5 inch 250gb ssd previously. So i had to repair shop and they did this for me. They took out my 7200rpm hard drive that came with laptop and installed my old 2.5 inch 250gb samsung ssd. The thing was he messed up first because when i checked my laptop when i got home, i notice everything that i was downloading like programs, went to the m.2 32gb ssd instead. Obviously this was a huge problem since for some reason, it seemed like windows 10 was installed on the m.2?


    So i went back to repair shop and they fixed the issue by changing my 2.5 inch 250gb ssd to the main drive and made the m.2 32gb ssd the 2nd hard drive. Does that make sense? He then installed windows 10 pro for me... I did not ask this... he just did it. Also im pretty certain if you remove the m.2 32gb ssd from the laptop, my laptop works as normal as it would be using the 2.5 inch 250gb samsung ssd... correct?


    Dell xps 15 9550 and many other xps laptops have 2 options. It either comes with the big battery which is 84wh or 97wh battery and comes with a m.2 ssd. The 84wh battery is longer in length than the 56wh one. The other option is what i got... it comes with a 2.5 inch ssd and a m.2 32gb ssd... but i only get the smaller 56wh battery. Thus back then when i bought xps 15 9550, i had zero idea because of the setup i bought, i only had the 56wh battery option. But people in the xps thread said you can buy the 84w or 97w battery... but you have to remove that 2.5 inch ssd and only use a m.2 ssd to make space for it... does that make sense?


    I read online there are some ppl that actually prefer having 2 hard drives in laptop because they want more space but they give up the bigger battery. But those ppl are rare. Had i known my laptop was like this, i would not have bought it and gotten the 84wh battery with one ssd like most people do
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