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  1. Posts : 245
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       #51

    Try3 said:
    Dan,

    This is what the Security, Advanced dialog will look like at the end


    Denis
    Done! Thanks for your time & patience and if ever in south FL be sure to stop by for a cold one!
    Since I'm the ONLY user of my PC this is a good security procedure to be aware of, so thanks for walking me through it.
    Dan
    Last edited by bromberg; 06 Aug 2019 at 00:58.
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  2. Posts : 16,950
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       #52

    Dan,

    My pleasure.

    Unfortunately, FL is too far for me to walk today. And I can't find my Wellingtons.

    Denis
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  3. Posts : 245
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       #53

    Try3 said:
    Dan,

    My pleasure.

    Unfortunately, FL is too far for me to walk today. And I can't find my Wellingtons.

    Denis
    Good one!
    Happy trails,
    Dan
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       #54

    I'm coming late to this but, you can run RegIdleBackup on demand, I do it all the time. And when I create a scheduled task, under the general tab I will either run the scheduled task under the Administrators account, or my own personal Administrator level account in addition to using run as administrator. My personal Administrator account is obviously a member of the Administrators account. HTH
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       #55

    shockwaveriderz said:
    I'm coming late to this but, you can run RegIdleBackup on demand, I do it all the time. And when I create a scheduled task, under the general tab I will either run the scheduled task under the Administrators account, or my own personal Administrator level account in addition to using run as administrator. My personal Administrator account is obviously a member of the Administrators account. HTH
    I've had no success running RegIdleBackup through the Task Manager's TRIGGER option so I'd be very interested if you've gotten that to work.
    Specifically, I want to trigger it when I shutdown my PC.
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       #56

    shockwaveriderz said:
    I'm coming late to this but, you can run RegIdleBackup on demand, I do it all the time. And when I create a scheduled task, under the general tab I will either run the scheduled task under the Administrators account, or my own personal Administrator level account in addition to using run as administrator. My personal Administrator account is obviously a member of the Administrators account. HTH
    Examples please. How are you doing this?
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  7. Posts : 245
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       #57

    Ztruker said:
    Examples please. How are you doing this?
    Good point, but do I know if my current account has ADMINISTRATIVE authority?
    Since I'm the only user of this PC I would want it to be an ADMIN account, but how can I tell?
    Dan
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  8. Posts : 16,950
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       #58

    Dan,

    To check the status of a user account, you can open a command window and enter
    net user
    followed by your user name e.g.
    net user RonBin
    then look on the Local Group Memberships line.
    You should see *Administrators and that indicates that your account has Admin status.

    Do note that even Admin accounts are treated as Standard accounts when they log in. You give yourself permission to operate at an Admin level for specific tasks using the Admin prompt.
    running DOS as ADMIN-admin-consentui.png

    Everybody normally refers to this as the Admin prompt.
    - It is properly called an ElevationUI, ConsentUI or Secure desktop mode dialog [that last term only applies if it dims the rest of the screen when it appears].
    - A Standard user would get a version that included an input box to enter an Admin account's password and this type of dialog is properly called an ElevationUI, CredentialUI or Secure desktop mode dialog [that last term only applies if it dims the rest of the screen when it appears].

    If you are routinely using an Admin account for day-to-day computing then go to Control panel, User accounts, Change UAC settings and put the slider to its top position.
    - Malware can attempt to penetrate an Admin account to achieve Admin elevation without that Admin prompt appearing [and thus gaining access to the whole computer without your knowing].
    - It seems, at the moment, that having UAC set to its maximum prevents that.
    - There have been demonstrations of malware penetrating successfully with UAC set to its default level [one level down from the maximum].
    - The proper solution is to use a Standard account for day-to-day computing but not all of us do so. I don't.

    While we're on the subject -
    - User accounts can get corrupted
    - If your only Admin account gets corrupted then sorting things out is difficult.
    - A spare Admin account can change a crisis into a mere annoyance.
    - Go to Settings, Accounts, Family & other users and
    - - Add someone else to this PC then make a new local account - and make sure you give it a decently strong password that you immediately write down somewhere handy yet secure.
    - - When you have done that, select the new account then click on Change account type and make it an Admin account.

    Denis
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  9. Posts : 245
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       #59

    Try3 said:
    Dan,

    To check the status of a user account, you can open a command window and enter
    net user
    followed by your user name e.g.
    net user RonBin
    then look on the Local Group Memberships line.
    You should see *Administrators and that indicates that your account has Admin status.

    Do note that even Admin accounts are treated as Standard accounts when they log in. You give yourself permission to operate at an Admin level for specific tasks using the Admin prompt.
    running DOS as ADMIN-admin-consentui.png

    Everybody normally refers to this as the Admin prompt.
    - It is properly called an ElevationUI, ConsentUI or Secure desktop mode dialog [that last term only applies if it dims the rest of the screen when it appears].
    - A Standard user would get a version that included an input box to enter an Admin account's password and this type of dialog is properly called an ElevationUI, CredentialUI or Secure desktop mode dialog [that last term only applies if it dims the rest of the screen when it appears].

    If you are routinely using an Admin account for day-to-day computing then go to Control panel, User accounts, Change UAC settings and put the slider to its top position.
    - Malware can attempt to penetrate an Admin account to achieve Admin elevation without that Admin prompt appearing [and thus gaining access to the whole computer without your knowing].
    - It seems, at the moment, that having UAC set to its maximum prevents that.
    - There have been demonstrations of malware penetrating successfully with UAC set to its default level [one level down from the maximum].
    - The proper solution is to use a Standard account for day-to-day computing but not all of us do so. I don't.

    While we're on the subject -
    - User accounts can get corrupted
    - If your only Admin account gets corrupted then sorting things out is difficult.
    - A spare Admin account can change a crisis into a mere annoyance.
    - Go to Settings, Accounts, Family & other users and
    - - Add someone else to this PC then make a new local account - and make sure you give it a decently strong password that you immediately write down somewhere handy yet secure.
    - - When you have done that, select the new account then click on Change account type and make it an Admin account.

    Denis
    Hi Denis,
    Thanks for the 'net user' tip (and other info in your last post). Mine shows up as:
    Code:
    Local Group Memberships      *Administrators       *Ssh Users
    Global Group memberships     *None
    So if I am an Administrator do you have any thoughts on why my scheduling of the RegIdleBackup task that I request to be issued during shutdown through the Windows Task Scheduler does not work?
    You may recall from your prior assistance that we did get it to work through a DOS batch command but now I'd like for the Task Scheduler to do it for me.

    Thanks!
    Dan
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  10. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #60

    Dan,

    I have seen some threads about RegIdleBackup recently, I don't think that Enable Automatic Backs up of System Registry [in which I can see you posted], was the only one. But I have not followed the subject and have no opinion about the task.
    - For any individual Registry key, I rely on exporting it before I start work.
    - For the overall Registry, I rely on my frequent system images.

    Try getting a shortcut to a simple batch file [just containing a pause command] to run from Task scheduler.
    Then add >D:\Desktop\Results.txt to the shortcut and try again [use your own path & filename].
    Then add running as Admin to the shortcut and try again.
    Then changing the shortcut to point to your proper batch file and try again.

    Do note that the account settings in Task scheduler can have unexpected effects. If you tell it to run whether user is logged in or not then it will simply refuse to do anything if the task uses a UI.

    Denis
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