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    Many thanks to all.
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    margrave55 said: View Post
    If a laptop costs less than $1000 ...
    or
    If a laptop is marketed as "home" or "home" office" ...
    ... then it's junk. You're wasting your money.

    You can waste $400. Or $600. Or $800. It's waste.

    If you must spend under $1000, buy a desktop.
    If you must have a laptop, buy one listed as a "business laptop". You'll spend $1000 or more.
    These are better performing and (more importantly) better built.
    Some of us don't need military field grade hardware for a laptop.

    And if its primary uses are email and web browsing, performance isn't much of an issue.

    Desktop replacements and/or unbreakable hardware are different classes of machines. If the OP doesn't need - or isn't prepared to pay for - one, this sort of browbeating isn't justified.

    My own laptop is fairly cheap. It isn't intended for heavy portable use; it rarely leaves the house. I admit that the SSD I swapped for its spinning HD cost almost as much as the laptop. I expect that the laptop will be obsolete before it wears out.
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    It's not a question of "military grade". Indeed, a $1000 laptop is not military grade. Nor $2000.

    And performance is not my point. Rather, it's about durability and long-life. So the question is: why buy crap that won't last?

    You could own several $500 laptops, each one replacing its broken predecessor, while the business laptop continues to churn for years.

    Cheap laptops are crap.
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    I brought my HP laptop I have now for under 100. it had only been used to advertise the shop and what they stocked. all I had to do was reset it. took about 1-2 hours to put everything on it I wanted and I was up and running and have been ever since and they gave me a years guarantee with it. well pleased it does everything I want it to do. see my system specs.
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    i was going to post great things about the cheap acer switch 10 i got on amazon 3or4 yrs ago for 185.00cdn but i didn't want to jinks it ,,,, bent an twisted and all scratched up from shoving it between the console and seat of my car ,works like a charm ,most time !,,, hope that wasn't enough to jinks it ,lol , Price is not everything ,but it counts for sure
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    margrave55 said: View Post
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    Cheap laptops are crap.
    Maybe. I have an HP/Compaq CQ50-105NR. Bought it new in 2008, when a broken ankle made it impractical to use a desktop for a while. It was a real cheapie; came with Vista.

    I don't use it anymore. The right $250 model of recent manufacture is much faster.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. Don't be too disappointed if not everyone takes it as an absolute.
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    margrave55 said: View Post
    It's not a question of "military grade". Indeed, a $1000 laptop is not military grade. Nor $2000.

    And performance is not my point. Rather, it's about durability and long-life. So the question is: why buy crap that won't last?

    You could own several $500 laptops, each one replacing its broken predecessor, while the business laptop continues to churn for years.

    Cheap laptops are crap.
    That again depends on the user. I had a 14" Vaio for the last 5 years and just gave it to my daughter. It's still going strong. But like Bobkn said, it rarely leaves the house and usually sits on the coffee table.

    My friend just bought a flat screen TV built like a tank then hung it on the wall???
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    caperjack said: View Post
    i was going to post great things about the cheap acer switch 10 i got on amazon 3or4 yrs ago for 185.00cdn but i didn't want to jinks it ,,,, bent an twisted and all scratched up from shoving it between the console and seat of my car ,works like a charm ,most time !,,, hope that wasn't enough to jinks it ,lol , Price is not everything ,but it counts for sure
    Should have insisted they charge you more. Then the hardware upgrades itself so it never gets old...
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    hardware upgrades,, ??
    Soapm said: View Post
    Should have insisted they charge you more. Then the hardware upgrades itself so it never gets old...
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    margrave55 said: View Post
    It's not a question of "military grade". Indeed, a $1000 laptop is not military grade. Nor $2000.

    And performance is not my point. Rather, it's about durability and long-life. So the question is: why buy crap that won't last?

    You could own several $500 laptops, each one replacing its broken predecessor, while the business laptop continues to churn for years.

    Cheap laptops are crap.
    I've still got a Dell Inspiron P11 from 1998, works fine.
    The only broken bits are the plastic hinge covers, otherwise works as new.
    It's been around the world a few times in its early life ( I had a custom ATA briefcase flight case made for it + a Canon BJC80 printer which cost about 100).
    The limiting factor is the hardware is so old and the upgradeability is so non existent (RAM is maxed out at 144MB) that apart from a bit of linux noodling for interest only, it is effectively useless for day to day operations involving web browsing et al.

    I agree to a degree about modern commodity laptops being 'crap', but there's no point in going overboard when hardware specs are going to be the long term limiting factor going forward.
    Once you get more than a couple of gens away from the latest spec CPU's there's always functionality issues for the latest protocols.
    (HDR/4K H.265 codecs et al).

    I'd always look for something that has non soldered RAM, SSD, etc. in a new/refurb purchase, plenty of options there in the non business grade class.
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