128Gb SSD and an internal 1 Terabyte standard hard disk help?

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  1. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
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       #11

    dalchina said:
    Why don't you convince yourself by making sure you have a current disk image before you next upgrade, and see what happens?

    You can restore your image if anything goes wrong (as well as having the option for reverting to the previous build for 10 days).
    I know a lot of you guys on here swear by Macrium but I tend to rely on System Restore, clean install using Reset PC or clean install using Media Creation Tool if Reset PC fails. That's always been good enough for me. I back up all of my important Documents and files to USB flash drive on a weekly basis. It works OK for me because I don't have masses of stuff to install again but obviously Id prefer not to have issues which is why I asked for feedback from you guys on here who have an SSD and Games and Apps installed on a secondary standard internal HDD.
    Do the methods I use for clean install with Reset PC and MCT clean install that I described above sound OK to you? They were :-
    " I sometimes use the Reset this PC option to clean install in Settings/Recovery but to ensure a clean install I don't keep personal files I always select to remove everything. I would also clean everything off the D: drive at the same time. Would there be any issues there? I would install games and other programmes back to the empty D: drive later

    I only use the Media Creation Tool as a last resort to clean install Windows 10 and in that case I delete all partitions during Windows Setup including all partitions on both C: and D: . That leaves two lots of unallocated space (one for the SSD and one for the internal HDD). Then I just select the SSD and click next to install Windows 10. After Windows is installed I use Disk Management to create a new simple volume on the unallocated HDD and give it a drive letter"
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  2. Posts : 42,961
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #12

    Hi, you don't seem to be aware of the differences between SR and disk imaging.
    SR is often not reliable when restoring. It only protects a few specific things, whereas disk imaging protects whole partitions.

    SR is often useless if your PC is unbootable, or affected by an unremovable virus, or your disk fails.

    Disk imaging is useful in these circumstances.

    Etc.

    Naturally, it's your PC... but being able to restore to a previous good working state can reduce our workload, and user frustration and delay.
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  3. Posts : 14,046
    Windows 11 Pro X64 22H2 22621.1848
       #13

    When I was installing Windows 7 Games for Windows 10, it always got removed with a FU. Most other things did not but.
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  4. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #14

    I've got my user data files relocated to D: drive and my games installed on G: drive. Never had an issue upgrading between versions of Windows 10. Also, steam and ubiplay game software allows you to "import" games stored on other drives. So, after a clean install, I reinstall steam and ubiplay and then "import" the games stored on G: drive, which I do not reformat.
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  5. Posts : 928
    Win 10
       #15

    @sportsfan1489
    Games and Apps installed on a secondary standard internal HDD.
    If you do a refresh, You will have to reinstall the programs.

    Macrium keeps you from having to do that.

    I back up all of my important Documents and files to USB flash drive on a weekly basis.
    Not a bad practice, You can never have too many backups. But most of here also have images as well.

    I have had several clients that were glad I showed them how to Image with Macrium.
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  6. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
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       #16

    NavyLCDR said:
    I've got my user data files relocated to D: drive and my games installed on G: drive. Never had an issue upgrading between versions of Windows 10. Also, steam and ubiplay game software allows you to "import" games stored on other drives. So, after a clean install, I reinstall steam and ubiplay and then "import" the games stored on G: drive, which I do not reformat.
    Hi mate, If I understand you correctly. It sounds like you store your games on G: drive but don't actually play them from there. When you clean install you say you import them presumably onto your C: drive and run them there. Because of space limitations my 128 GB SSD is just for the OS. My games will all be installed on and run from my D: drive.
    That's why I asked if the 6 monthly Win 10 feature updates will break everything installed on D: because obviously they will have had registry entries etc written on the C: drive.
    Im also wondering if all installations on D: are broken if you use Reset PC which I sometimes do. I always do the Reset PC clean install where I remove everything. Im wondering if I use Reset PC in the future to clean install Windows 10 it would be better to also clean everything from the D: drive and reinstall the games later. I don't know if that can be done during the Reset PC procedure or not
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  7. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #17

    Even when installed to another partition/drive many games or applications install some files on C:\ partition and/or make changes to registry. Those are parts that can be affected by changing OS or with problems with it. Most programs/games will give you a choice where to install bulk of their data during installation. I never had windows update change anything to the games but had to reinstall Windows few times so I elected to install games to second SSD (250GB enough for me) while personal data is stored on two other HDDs (I'm somewhat of a software hoarder).
    If I do have to change windows, I just reinstall games to same directories and that keeps most game saves.
    For backups, I make a full main disk backup and occasionally also game disk. With backup SW like Macrium Reflect it's also possible to chose both disks to backup in same .mrimg file and restore them to same disks. That makes much larger backup file but ensures that everything in the same order it was before. .mrimg file will be about 75% off all data backed up.
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  8. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #18

    CountMike said:
    Even when installed to another partition/drive many games or applications install some files on C:\ partition and/or make changes to registry. Those are parts that can be affected by changing OS or with problems with it. Most programs/games will give you a choice where to install bulk of their data during installation. I never had windows update change anything to the games but had to reinstall Windows few times so I elected to install games to second SSD (250GB enough for me) while personal data is stored on two other HDDs (I'm somewhat of a software hoarder).
    If I do have to change windows, I just reinstall games to same directories and that keeps most game saves.
    For backups, I make a full main disk backup and occasionally also game disk. With backup SW like Macrium Reflect it's also possible to chose both disks to backup in same .mrimg file and restore them to same disks. That makes much larger backup file but ensures that everything in the same order it was before. .mrimg file will be about 75% off all data backed up.
    Hi Mike. System Images aren't a necessity for me. I don't have lots of extra software to install after Reset PC or even if I had to do a full Media Creation Tool clean install so Ive never bothered with System Images. I tend to rely on System Restore (that can be unreliable I know), clean install with Reset PC which is fairly quick too or if that gives any problems its the Media Creation Tool clean install method.
    So if I understand you correctly. You too have your games installed on a totally separate drive to your Windows 10 OS. When you reinstall your games after using Reset PC do you wipe that separate drive with the Games on it and then reinstall them from scratch?
    That's why I asked the question above "Im also wondering if all installations on D: are broken if you use Reset PC which I sometimes do. I always do the Reset PC clean install where I remove everything. Im wondering if I use Reset PC in the future to clean install Windows 10 it would be better to also clean everything from the D: drive and reinstall the games later. I don't know if that can be done during the Reset PC procedure or not"
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  9. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #19

    sportsfan148 said:
    Hi Mike. System Images aren't a necessity for me. I don't have lots of extra software to install after Reset PC or even if I had to do a full Media Creation Tool clean install so Ive never bothered with System Images. I tend to rely on System Restore (that can be unreliable I know), clean install with Reset PC which is fairly quick too or if that gives any problems its the Media Creation Tool clean install method.
    So if I understand you correctly. You too have your games installed on a totally separate drive to your Windows 10 OS. When you reinstall your games do you wipe that separate drive with the Games on it and then reinstall them from scratch?
    You are right, It's SSD separate from OS drive. No need to wipe whole drive. just reinstall games to same folders on that game drive and that 90% of times keeps game saves for that game but some games keep them in the OS drive. If you can find them, they can be saved and restored manually. Just depends how important they are to you.
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