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  1.    05 Aug 2015 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by poset View Post
    Hi Wyn,

    I have an impression that your post is meant to be some sort of a counterweight to yesterday's rant about "Why I don't like Windows Ten so much". As both views seem to be polarised and a bit biased, I feel like saying that the truth usually lies in between.

    I believe that this is just a matter of personal taste and preferences, and those are not really disputable.

    I understand the direction MS took is to gradually replace the traditional WIN32 control panel with more "modern", WinRT-based UI. What I don't understand (and probably never will) is why that almost automatically implies stripping vital features. I just see no justification for that. Examples: much less control over UI. (colours, borders, title bars, fonts, etc.). No control over network profiles (changing type between private and public), renaming and merging (important for roaming users). Windows Update is, excuse me, for dummies, not professionals (and we are talking about the PRO edition).

    Capitulated? Really? Sorry, what MS did is both pathetic and ridiculous. For whatever mysterious reason they removed really vital feature of WU and instead of bringing it back (or exposing to the new Settings) they merely provided a prosthetic, which does not quite work anyway (hiding a driver update does not stop it from installing). I don't mind switching to a new UI, even if I don't like at first, but it must not stop me from doing things I need.

    Well, first of all the original complaint seems void, as the boot time comparison was based on incomparable environments (one with working SSD, one without). But there is some truth in it. For example, I have two nearly identical environments that I think I can compare. In the same laptop, on the same HDD, there are two identical partitions. One with the original Windows 7 and the other with a clone of the first, upgraded to Build 10240 a.k.a. RTM/GA. Bootup times are similar, with Windows 10 appearing sligtly faster (but it may just be me). Everyday tasks are equally snappy on both instances. However, resuming from hibernation is so catastrophically and unacceptably long with Windows 10 that I am considering rethinking my many-years-long habits.

    Wrapping it all up - I tend to be an early-adopter, there's a lot of fun with it. But folks at MS have quite a long way to go before they can seduce me away from Windows 7. For now there are more flaws than virtues in W10, if you compare the two.

    Cheers,
    poset
    Thanks for your post, Poset. You've given us some valuable information.

    I would really like to hear (see) more about the Windows Update issue; why do you think it's inadequate, etc.
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  2.    05 Aug 2015 #12
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    Folks, I'd like to ask one favor of all of you . . .

    When posting about Windows 10's strengths and inadequacies, please don't use terms like "pathetic", "ridiculous", etc. It's not necessary and adds nothing to a post. When someone who is satisfied with Windows 10 reads something like the above, it puts them on the defensive and makes them react negatively.

    I would rather read a statement that says, "Expresscache does not work with W-10. That's a deal killer for me." The OP gave a problem and without rancor, stated it was a "deal killer". A statement like this makes me wish to help if I can.
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  3.    05 Aug 2015 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Gator, have you gone to the manufacturer's site to find drivers?

    I don't know if this will help, but here's what I found: ExpressCache - 3x Your PC Speed | Diskeeper
    Thanks for your reply.

    Confirmed through many sources, the SanDisk ReadyCache software is not compatible with W-10 at this time. In all fairness this was not an oversight on the part of MS but in fact SanDisk did not start testing with W-10 until the official release date (7/29/15). This issue has impacted many users worldwide and SanDisk is reportedly working on the issue and initial reports state that it should be no more than a matter of weeks for a fix.

    Regarding MS and this issue, I think a legitimate gripe would be that several compatibility scans by the GWX components on my PC indicated that all files, software, Apps and devices were "Good To Go". I guess I took that statement too literally. Fortunately I did not upgrade to W-10 on my desktop because I read your post. I will keep W-10 on my laptop and have the best of both worlds until the ReadyCache issue is resolved.
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  4.    05 Aug 2015 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by gator2013 View Post
    Thanks for your reply.

    Confirmed through many sources, the SanDisk ReadyCache software is not compatible with W-10 at this time. In all fairness this was not an oversight on the part of MS but in fact SanDisk did not start testing with W-10 until the official release date (7/29/15). This issue has impacted many users worldwide and SanDisk is reportedly working on the issue and initial reports state that it should be no more than a matter of weeks for a fix.
    Absolutely unbelievable, Gator! Absolutely unbelievable that a company such as SanDisk would actually make the mistake of waiting until after release of a new OS before beginning to work on drivers!

    I'm sure I won't be using anything SanDisk (which I've used in the past; just not SSD) in the near future, for fear of landing in the same situation as you and other users. I'm sure they will be paying dearly for their lack of judgment, though, and I really do sympathize with their employees.

    Quote Originally Posted by gator2013 View Post
    Regarding MS and this issue, I think a legitimate gripe would be that several compatibility scans by the GWX components on my PC indicated that all files, software, Apps and devices were "Good To Go". I guess I took that statement too literally. Fortunately I did not upgrade to W-10 on my desktop because I read your post. I will keep W-10 on my laptop and have the best of both worlds until the ReadyCache issue is resolved.
    Yes, I do believe MS is at fault too. And a thought just occurred to me: I wonder if SanDisk didn't create Win 10 drivers because Microsoft had told folks like you that everything was Okey Dokey!?

    What I can say is that if my post kept you from falling into a bottomless pit, I'm glad I posted. We never know who or how we'll help.
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  5.    05 Aug 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Folks, I'd like to ask one favor of all of you . . .

    When posting about Windows 10's strengths and inadequacies, please don't use terms like "pathetic", "ridiculous", etc. It's not necessary and adds nothing to a post. When someone who is satisfied with Windows 10 reads something like the above, it puts them on the defensive and makes them react negatively.

    I would rather read a statement that says, "Expresscache does not work with W-10. That's a deal killer for me." The OP gave a problem and without rancor, stated it was a "deal killer". A statement like this makes me wish to help if I can.
    Sure thing. Point taken
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  6.    05 Aug 2015 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by poset View Post
    Sure thing. Point taken
    Thanks!
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  7.    05 Aug 2015 #17
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    i rather like Win 10 and the way it runs , i have not had a hiccup from it , i have however had a hiccup with the win 10 drivers for nvidia card i see they crash and recover sometimes but i don't see a difference when they do, so as long as it don't change my screen i don't care.
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  8.    05 Aug 2015 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by gator2013 View Post
    I'm so glad I read your post. I have been running W-10 on my laptop since 7/29 and have come to grips with the differences/changes when compared to 8.1 and was about ready to go ahead with the upgrade to W-10 on my desktop until I read your post and confirmed with other sources that Expresscache does not work with W-10. That's a deal killer for me. My desktop is my primary computer and if my cache drive is inoperable with W-10 that is not an upgrade but a downgrade.
    Just found this reference that claims to fix the ExpressCache problem.

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d5da527?auth=1
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  9.    05 Aug 2015 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuyGeek View Post
    Just found this reference that claims to fix the ExpressCache problem.

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d5da527?auth=1
    Good find, Old Guy! I just hope it works for him.
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  10.    05 Aug 2015 #20
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    And this is to see if my Sig shows up.
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