Windows 10: Seriously Microsoft??

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  1.    03 Aug 2015 #1

    Seriously Microsoft??


    Service contract have always been in place for software, be that OS and/or apps. Generally along the line of indemnifying the company:
    provider/seller is not responsible for any illegal or harmful use of the product or service
    There had been no specifics provided for the illegal/harmful activities, nor had been there any "threat" of enforcement by the company in the past. This had been drastically changed in Microsoft's new service agreement as of August 01, 2015, quote:
    Code of Conduct Summary
    3. Code of Conduct.

    • a. By agreeing to these Terms, youíre agreeing that, when using the Services, you will follow these rules:
      • i. Donít do anything illegal.
      • ii. Donít engage in any activity that exploits, harms, or threatens to harm children.
      • iii. Donít send spam. Spam is unwanted or unsolicited bulk email, postings, contact requests, SMS (text messages), or instant messages.
      • iv. Donít publicly display or use the Services to share inappropriate Content or material (involving, for example, nudity, bestiality, pornography, graphic violence, or criminal activity).
      • v. Donít engage in activity that is false or misleading (e.g., asking for money under false pretenses, impersonating someone else, manipulating the Services to increase play count, or affect rankings, ratings, or comments).
      • vi. Donít circumvent any restrictions on access to or availability of the Services.
      • vii. Donít engage in activity that is harmful to you, the Services, or others (e.g., transmitting viruses, stalking, communicating hate speech, or advocating violence against others).
      • viii. Donít infringe upon the rights of others (e.g., unauthorized sharing of copyrighted music or other copyrighted material, resale or other distribution of Bing maps, or photographs).
      • ix. Donít engage in activity that violates the privacy of others.
      • x. Donít help others break these rules.

    • b. Enforcement. If you violate these Terms, we may stop providing Services to you or we may close your Microsoft account or Skype account. We may also block delivery of a communication (like email or instant message) to or from the Services in an effort to enforce these Terms or we may remove or refuse to publish Your Content for any reason. When investigating alleged violations of these Terms, Microsoft reserves the right to review Your Content in order to resolve the issue. However, we cannot monitor the entire Services and make no attempt to do so.

    Full text
    I understand that this might be just the "new standard" for Microsoft with little or no actual enforcement, but it also seems that they can enforce this based on all of the information Microsoft will collect about Windows 10 users, including Office365 and a slew of other services.

    I've got a good chuckle about the code of conduct number ix., quote:
    Donít engage in activity that violates the privacy of others.
    Competition would be bad, wouldn't it Microsoft?
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  2.    03 Aug 2015 #2

    I don't see anything bad in there...

    Don't harm children..ok so that allows MS to bring child porn users to justice with the full weight of the law and about time too.

    That also extends to online abuse so I see that as a win win..why you don't is beyond me.

    Sorry but the world is changing and the amount of abuse being done and people just hiding from prosecution is just silly now. God forbid someone should take steps to protect themselves in this time of change.

    The only people this affects are those that have something to worry about like child abusers..should all die in the in the pits of hell as the scum they are.

    Microsoft have as have many other companies gone to the authorities to report people as they are suppose to...Is this some sort of revelation? I mean seriously you can't be that naive.

    But what is more amusing is people complaining about Microsoft collecting data...which they could have been doing for the last what 20+ years without telling you anyway and then you all go and post you're entire lives on facebook or which ever other site you visit....Ironic to complain about MS.

    How is It I wonder how they knew so few were using the start menu in windows.....

    get you're tin foil hats out as frankly you are all insane if you think Intelligence services haven't collected you're online life already. You could always turn you're phone off...if you actually think that would make a difference..hardly a difficult task to listen in on a phone turned off.

    Don't commit a crime don't break the law and what do you have to worry about? nothing.

    Hell I don't care my government has done a background check on me so in depth I felt like I got an anal prob and the things they knew scared the hell out of me, I'm talking things that no one else knew and I'd never told...swines.
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  3.    03 Aug 2015 #3

    Maggelan said: View Post
    I don't see anything bad in there...

    Don't harm children..ok so that allows MS to bring child porn users to justice with the full weight of the law and about time too.

    That also extends to online abuse so I see that as a win win..why you don't is beyond me.

    Sorry but the world is changing and the amount of abuse being done and people just hiding from prosecution is just silly now. God forbid someone should take steps to protect themselves in this time of change.

    The only people this affects are those that have something to worry about like child abusers..should all die in the in the pits of hell as the scum they are.

    Microsoft have as have many other companies gone to the authorities to report people as they are suppose to...Is this some sort of revelation? I mean seriously you can't be that naive.

    But what is more amusing is people complaining about Microsoft collecting data...which they could have been doing for the last what 20+ years without telling you anyway and then you all go and post you're entire lives on facebook or which ever other site you visit....Ironic to complain about MS.

    How is It I wonder how they knew so few were using the start menu in windows.....

    get you're tin foil hats out as frankly you are all insane if you think Intelligence services haven't collected you're online life already. You could always turn you're phone off...if you actually think that would make a difference..hardly a difficult task to listen in on a phone turned off.

    Don't commit a crime don't break the law and what do you have to worry about? nothing.

    Hell I don't care my government has done a background check on me so in depth I felt like I got an anal prob and the things they knew scared the hell out of me, I'm talking things that no one else knew and I'd never told...swines.
    And when your religion becomes a crime...? Your political activism?
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  4.    03 Aug 2015 #4

    I love it. Philosophy on a computer forum.
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  5.    03 Aug 2015 #5

    When my religion or activism becomes a crime, I'll have a lot more than just Microsoft to worry about.
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  6.    03 Aug 2015 #6

    leithanne said: View Post
    When my religion or activism becomes a crime, I'll have a lot more than just Microsoft to worry about.
    The chances are that it'll be too late then...
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  7.    03 Aug 2015 #7

    leithanne said: View Post
    When my religion or activism becomes a crime, I'll have a lot more than just Microsoft to worry about.

    Wiser words were never said.
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  8.    03 Aug 2015 #8

    Rocky said: View Post
    I love it. Philosophy on a computer forum.
    The question is who gave the authority to Microsoft to enforce "general social norms"? Even if some of the listed activities are objectionable to everyone, do you really need a software company policing their end users?

    Maggelan said: View Post
    Microsoft have as have many other companies gone to the authorities to report people as they are suppose to...Is this some sort of revelation? I mean seriously you can't be that naive.
    Companies don't report to authorities without an NSL, that included Microsoft at least until now. Not every company has the same level of service agreement in place, here's a quote from Apple's:
    5. Services and Third Party Materials.
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    .
    .
    C. You understand that by using any of the Services, you may encounter content that may be deemed
    offensive, indecent, or objectionable, which content may or may not be identified as having explicit
    language, and that the results of any search or entering of a particular URL may automatically and
    unintentionally generate links or references to objectionable material. Nevertheless, you agree to use the
    Services at your sole risk and that Apple shall have no liability to you for content that may be found to be
    offensive, indecent, or objectionable.
    The chances are that Google have a similar service agreement...
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  9.    03 Aug 2015 #9

    Have you looked at the TOS for this forum, lately? It's really not that different from Microsoft's.
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       03 Aug 2015 #10

    The Services probably refers to Microsoft's online services like Microsoft Accounts, Bing (Rewards program linked to Microsoft Account), Skype, etc. It could mean Office 365, but how would they be able to enforce these rules if that was the case? By reading over biology essays or something like that? The reason I pointed out that it probably has to do with the online services is that almost every online service has these rules. Google, Facebook, Twitter, and the list goes on. For example, if Google catches you sending child porn through G-Mail, then you'll probably be behind bars the next day. Here is Facebook's introduction to the Safety Team: https://www.facebook.com/notes/faceb..._fb_noscript=1
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