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  1.    04 Aug 2015 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmatteastwood View Post
    To be clear, you did this, right?

    1. Have a properly activated version of Windows 7 SP1 installed
    2. Go to Windows 10 (the ISO download site)
    3. Download the tool (32 bit or 64 bit, depending on what you need)
    4. Run the tool, select the "Upgrade this PC" option

    If you have done the steps above, then you are doing the right thing. What *should* happen next is that the Windows upgrade tool automatically upgrades your existing legitimate, properly activated Windows 7 installation to a legitimate, properly activated Windows 10 installation (asks you a bunch of questions along the way).

    More details:
    How to upgrade to Windows 10 without waiting in line | The Verge

    After that, you can burn yourself an ISO and re-install Windows 10 clean as often as you like, for the lifetime of the system (and by "lifetime", Microsoft means until you replace your motherboard, which has the license information stored in its ROM).

    If this is what you did, and you're still experiencing problems, let us know what they are - and let's figure them out! :-)
    What you said, I did, as stated att the beginning. I had read the Verge articles and others. That is why I did the "update" to Win 10 on a secondary PC, so if there were any problems i wouldn't screw up my primary PC with all my info.
    I will start over, re-install Win 7, run the update tool (again) and see what happens. Will take a day or two to get to. If problems again, I will let you know.
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  2.    04 Aug 2015 #12
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    Montreal
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Ah, ok - thanks for confirming! Keep us posted.
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  3.    04 Aug 2015 #13
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    Posts : 7
    windows 7
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmatteastwood View Post
    To be clear, you did this, right?

    1. Have a properly activated version of Windows 7 SP1 installed
    2. Go to Windows 10 (the ISO download site)
    3. Download the tool (32 bit or 64 bit, depending on what you need)
    4. Run the tool, select the "Upgrade this PC" option

    If you have done the steps above, then you are doing the right thing. What *should* happen next is that the Windows upgrade tool automatically upgrades your existing legitimate, properly activated Windows 7 installation to a legitimate, properly activated Windows 10 installation (asks you a bunch of questions along the way).

    More details:
    How to upgrade to Windows 10 without waiting in line | The Verge

    After that, you can burn yourself an ISO and re-install Windows 10 clean as often as you like, for the lifetime of the system (and by "lifetime", Microsoft means until you replace your motherboard, which has the license information stored in its ROM).

    If this is what you did, and you're still experiencing problems, let us know what they are - and let's figure them out! :-)
    I had a chance this PM to re-install Win 7 clean w/ key, let all the upgrades available in addition to the SP1 on board, then ran the upgrade tool again to install Win 10 again over an existing, key-registered Win 7. After d/l and file install, it asked for a key---again! This is pure BS! I am so glad I didn't attempt this on my prime PC; I can't afford to lose everything I have on there. Another stellar move by MS to prove that their OS is crap. I think I will just install Linux Mint in a dual-boot with Win 7 and let it go at that, unless someone has some way to resolve this mess.
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  4.    04 Aug 2015 #14
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmatteastwood View Post
    (and by "lifetime", Microsoft means until you replace your motherboard, which has the license information stored in its ROM)
    Windows 10 stores no information regarding future activation on the motherboard ROM, the user's computer, nor the user's Microsoft account (if they have one). All of the information for future activation is held on Microsoft's activation servers. You change a major component on a previously activated computer, Windows 10 will generate a different hardware ID which won't be in Microsoft's activation servers and you will either have to enter a license key to activate on the new hardware or you will have to call Microsoft and tell them your circumstance and they will give you an activation code which then will go on Microsoft's activation servers for future activations.

    Quote Originally Posted by rsross View Post
    After d/l and file install, it asked for a key---again! This is pure BS!
    Just click "Do this later" or "Skip" or "Skip this step". If your Windows 10 does not activate within a few days, just call Microsoft for the activation key.

    How to Activate and resolve common Product key issues in Windows 10 - Microsoft Community

    I did a completely clean install (after an upgrade install) after deleting all the partitions on the hard drive, on an older motherboard with no keys stored in Bios, install asked me for a key 3 different times and I skipped them all. First boot, with only a local user account created using a username and password that had never been used before - slmgr /xpr reports back the computer is permanently activated.
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  5.    05 Aug 2015 #15
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    Montreal
    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Windows 10 stores no information regarding future activation on the motherboard ROM, the user's computer, nor the user's Microsoft account (if they have one). All of the information for future activation is held on Microsoft's activation servers. You change a major component on a previously activated computer, Windows 10 will generate a different hardware ID which won't be in Microsoft's activation servers and you will either have to enter a license key to activate on the new hardware or you will have to call Microsoft and tell them your circumstance and they will give you an activation code which then will go on Microsoft's activation servers for future activations.
    Ahh - thanks for clarifying! Sorry for the misinformation.
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  6.    05 Aug 2015 #16
    Join Date : Aug 2015
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    windows 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Windows 10 stores no information regarding future activation on the motherboard ROM, the user's computer, nor the user's Microsoft account (if they have one). All of the information for future activation is held on Microsoft's activation servers. You change a major component on a previously activated computer, Windows 10 will generate a different hardware ID which won't be in Microsoft's activation servers and you will either have to enter a license key to activate on the new hardware or you will have to call Microsoft and tell them your circumstance and they will give you an activation code which then will go on Microsoft's activation servers for future activations.



    Just click "Do this later" or "Skip" or "Skip this step". If your Windows 10 does not activate within a few days, just call Microsoft for the activation key.

    How to Activate and resolve common Product key issues in Windows 10 - Microsoft Community

    I did a completely clean install (after an upgrade install) after deleting all the partitions on the hard drive, on an older motherboard with no keys stored in Bios, install asked me for a key 3 different times and I skipped them all. First boot, with only a local user account created using a username and password that had never been used before - slmgr /xpr reports back the computer is permanently activated.
    OK, I see your points, and read the link. NOW I find this out from MS .
    When I get to it again, I will try it and try the activation site. I see they are very busy (SURPRISE!), so I may not get back to you for a day or so.
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  7.    05 Aug 2015 #17
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by rsross View Post
    OK, I see your points, and read the link. NOW I find this out from MS .
    When I get to it again, I will try it and try the activation site. I see they are very busy (SURPRISE!), so I may not get back to you for a day or so.
    Now the bad news is that people who have called Microsoft with activation issues have been told to go back to a Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1, make sure that is activated, then upgrade again :-<. Your mileage may vary, hopefully in your favor.
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