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  1. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #11

    Anytime you do a complete reinstall this should also include installing & updating all drivers. A complete reinstall usually takes the system back to factory
    This appears to be a confusion of a factory reset with a clean install. Naturally a factory reset (using the manufacturer's recovery partition) would take you back to an 'as bought' condition- which might be Win 7,8 or 10 depending on what it first came with).

    A clean install may or may not (depending on your choice) also run a Windows update scan. If Windows update isn't run as part of the clean install, it will normally be run later. That ideally- and for the majority- delivers an appropriate set of drivers.

    I don't understand the need to routinely do an additional driver check. That should only be needed if there is a difficulty with a particular driver.

    People can run into problems using driver update tools, which most here definitely recommend against, and I've seen some cases where Windows has provided an updated driver after a feature update which has then cause a problem.
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  2. Posts : 108
    Windows 10 64bit
       #12

    dalchina said:
    This appears to be a confusion of a factory reset with a clean install. Naturally a factory reset (using the manufacturer's recovery partition) would take you back to an 'as bought' condition- which might be Win 7,8 or 10 depending on what it first came with).

    A clean install may or may not (depending on your choice) also run a Windows update scan. If Windows update isn't run as part of the clean install, it will normally be run later. That ideally- and for the majority- delivers an appropriate set of drivers.

    I don't understand the need to routinely do an additional driver check. That should only be needed if there is a difficulty with a particular driver.

    People can run into problems using driver update tools, which most here definitely recommend against, and I've seen some cases where Windows has provided an updated driver after a feature update which has then cause a problem.
    I am not confused at all. No matter what has been done, when fixing the OS then check the drivers, it could save headaches like this one down the road.
    We don't know what the OP has done, factory reset or clean install but regardless I personally always check the drivers to be sure that they all ARE up to date and I never recommend using some odd program to check the drivers, I would go directly to the computer mfgr and run a check there. They all offer that service in some way. I also would never recommend that drivers come from Microsoft which you seem to be recommending. IF Microsoft has drivers they are generally generic drivers and not one from the hardware manufacturer. He did ask if this could be a hardware problem, the result of the reinstall and the answer is yes, this is a possibility. Ztruker recommended going to the manufacturer to check on the driver and I agree 100%
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  3. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #13

    Could you give me an example of how you have benefited from downloading a driver from a manufacturer's site that is later than that provided by Windows that has provided any benefit? I'd really like to understand this idea.

    Thanks.

    I also would never recommend that drivers come from Microsoft which you seem to be recommending.
    There's a mass of drivers that MS supplies. I struggle to think you replace every single driver on your PC manually.

    Never had a problem, except needing to use an OLDER touchpad driver in the last few months.

    If you argue that you totally distrust drivers supplied with Windows, why do you bother installing Windows? And how would Windows run if it didn't supply drivers? According to you, all users should manually check for and update drivers. Has MS really so totally failed?

    The problems I've noted is where a driver is updated after a feature update and causes a problem on a particular system.
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  4. Posts : 108
    Windows 10 64bit
       #14

    @dalchina:
    My, my, you sure don't like it when somebody disagrees with you. First of all Windows Update offers driver updates only occasionally, in fact I have had my Windows 10 computer for over two years and have yet to have been offered a driver update by Windows. If this happens it is really very unusual and usually will happen only when a manufacturer discovers a major or dangerous problem with their driver for a particular piece of hardware and in order to reach the widest audience it will send it to Microsoft for inclusion in Windows Update and even then MS will offer you only that driver if it is WHQL certified and not all manufacturers submit to this certification though the drivers certainly can be installed without difficulty.
    XP would warn you that it was not WHQL driver but successive operating systems have not included or required this warning.

    It is really very rare that a new driver is needed so there is no good reason to manually check all of your drivers for updates and I have never done this in the 23 years I have owned & maintained 5 Windows Operating systems and 7 computers.
    I never said all drivers should be manually checked and updated. You really only need check for an updated driver if a newer version addresses a specific problem that your computer is experiencing, in other words, "if it ain't broke then don't fix it". If that happens then there is nothing difficult about manually going to the hardware mfgr to get a new driver.

    I have updated one driver in the 2+ years I have owned this Windows 10 computer, my graphic driver because I was having problems with it. I went to the graphic card mfgr web site and had a new driver in less than one minute and my problems were corrected. Nothing difficult or time consuming about it at all. This driver was NOT EVER offered via Windows Update so looking for one there would have been useless.

    A new install, clean install or factory reset will all generally give you enough to get things started and "maybe" a Windows Update might give you other drivers, IF Microsoft has them in their database but if they don't then you will have to go to the hardware mfgr.

    I have NEVER said Microsoft failed anything so don't try to claim that I did. I do NOT believe that Microsoft has failed. There are likely millions of hardware drivers from hundreds of mfrs available around the world there is no way that Microsoft could possibly have them all and as previously stated, unless they are WHQL certified they will not be there period.
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  5. Posts : 68,953
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #15

    warning   Warning
    Let's keep this discussion friendly shall we.
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  6. Posts : 108
    Windows 10 64bit
       #16

    Brink said:
    warning   Warning
    Let's keep this discussion friendly shall we.
    Sorry. I will back away. I have unsubscribed from this thread.
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