Windows stuck in bootloader when caddy is installed

slicendice said:

Have you already tried to wipe the HDD in your caddy clean? No partitions, nothing! Then insert the caddy with the clean HDD and enter BIOS to see what it detects. Finally if all is detected correctly, boot into Windows.

Yes, I have done that. It still gets stuck at bootloader.

zbook said:

See if you can open the BIOS using F10.
What are the settings?
Legacy
UEFI Native
UEFI Hybrid
(with or without CSM)

Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:

Code:

bcdedit /enum
bcedit | find "osdevice"
diskpart
list disk
list volume
select disk 0
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partition
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
select disk 1
detail disk
list partition
exit

When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

Attached a text file, please have a look.

zbook said:

1) For BSOD crashes there are Windows settings that can be modified.
2) In step #10 above another method is to type control in the left lower corner > open control panel > system and security > system > on the left pane click on advanced system settings >
a) under startup and recovery > click settings > post an image of the startup and recovery window into the thread
b) under performance > lick settings > on the performance options window click on the advanced tab > under virtual memory click change > post an image into the thread

3) For Ccleaner uncheck:
a) Memory Dumps
b) Windows log files

4) Chkdsk D: ok CT500MX500SSD1
5) If possible please run chkdsk /r /v and HD Tune on the second drive

I can run chkdsk and HD Tune on the second drive only if I plug into an external HDD case, not via caddy. Is that ok?

zbook said:

1) The SSD drive on the computer or disk 0 CT500MX500SSD1, is EFI
2) The other drives or disk 1 Hitachi HTS543232A7A384, and disk 2 are MBR
3) On disk 0 partition 1 or volume 1, the recovery, is 499 MB and was displayed as RAW.

4) Open administrative command prompt and copy and paste this whole command:

Code:

diskpart
list disk
list volume
select disk 1
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partiton
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
select disk 2
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partition
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
exit
reagentc /info

5) When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

6) Open Minitool partition wizard > post an image into the thread
MiniTool Partition Wizard Free Edition - Free download and software reviews - CNET Download.com

Just to let you know.

1. Windows is installed on my SSD (Crucial MX500) (Disk 0)
2. 320GB HITACHI HDD is inside my caddy. Detects and works fine. (Disk 1)
3. 1TB TOSHIBA HDD is in an external case. Detects fine on external case but not on caddy. Will get stuck at bootloader. (Disk 2).

1) For startup and recovery system failure:
a) uncheck automatically restart
b) reboot

With automatic restart checked it is easy to miss BSOD.
The default windows setting is automatically restart checked.
With automatic restart unchecked you should see a BSOD windows with bugcheck and : (
At times you may see a misbehaving driver in the form *.sys
At the very beginning of a bsod crash you may see a % counter.
If you see the % counter allow it to rise to 100% before rebooting so that there is sufficient time to create the dump file.


2) For Minitool partition wizard the information for disk 3 appears to be cut off.
If possible please repost the above image.

3) For the drive testing (HD Tune and chkdsk) these can be done via the HD enclosure.
When running the chkdsk command use the syntax: chkdsk /x /r /v C: or chkdsk /x /r /v D: changing the drive letter to the applicable drive.

4) When possible please post the results of the administrative command prompt commands for disk 1 and disk 2

There was a typo in the diskpark commands.
Please copy and paste and rerun these commands with corrected typo:

Code:

diskpart
list disk
list volume
select disk 1
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partition
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
select disk 2
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partition
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
exit
reagentc /info

When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

Diskpart displayed many partitions as RAW.
When available please repost Minitool displaying partitions on disk 3 with the other disks.

zbook said:

1) For startup and recovery system failure:
a) uncheck automatically restart
b) reboot

With automatic restart checked it is easy to miss BSOD.
The default windows setting is automatically restart checked.
With automatic restart unchecked you should see a BSOD windows with bugcheck and : (
At times you may see a misbehaving driver in the form *.sys
At the very beginning of a bsod crash you may see a % counter.
If you see the % counter allow it to rise to 100% before rebooting so that there is sufficient time to create the dump file.


2) For Minitool partition wizard the information for disk 3 appears to be cut off.
If possible please repost the above image.

3) For the drive testing (HD Tune and chkdsk) these can be done via the HD enclosure.
When running the chkdsk command use the syntax: chkdsk /x /r /v C: or chkdsk /x /r /v D: changing the drive letter to the applicable drive.

4) When possible please post the results of the administrative command prompt commands for disk 1 and disk 2

1. Should I perform Step #1 with my TOSHIBA 1TB inside my caddy or in an external case?

2.

3. It is taking some time, will post soon.

4. I already did it in post #55

zbook said:

There was a typo in the diskpark commands.
Please copy and paste and rerun these commands with corrected typo:

Code:

diskpart
list disk
list volume
select disk 1
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partition
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
select disk 2
detail disk
list partition
select partition 1
detail partition
select partition 2
detail partition
select partition 3
detail partition
select partition 4
detail partition
exit
reagentc /info

When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

Diskpart displayed many partitions as RAW.
When available please repost Minitool displaying partitions on disk 3 with the other disks.

Updated diskpart3.txt

hi, i enter this thread without opening another one ... i have a very similar boot problem with my hdd caddy...
i installed the original lenovo hdd in the hdd caddy dvd slot, and i installed a new sdd in the internal main SATA slot.
if I start windows these things often happen a bit random:

the screen with the lenovo logo freeze
black screen freeze
windows boot error screen
windows boot repair

sometimes windows starts normally but does not appear the hdd caddy,
if I turn the pc off and on again, windows starts up and I also see the hdd caddy and everything works very fine! (dvd sata port is slower then main internal sata port :-(

but next day next same random problems...

all this happens randomly to which I don't know how to explain the variety of random anomalies.

sometimes to boot windows+hddcaddy correctly i need to power off and power on pc several times...

I tried to start windows with the caddy inserted but no hdd inside and windows always starts perfectly and fast.

so the problem is the hdd not the caddy?!


DISKPART> list disk

Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 232 GB 1024 KB
Disk 1 Online 465 GB 1024 KB
Disk 2 Online 119 GB 1024 KB

DISKPART> list volume

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 0 D System Rese NTFS Partition 579 MB Healthy
Volume 1 C NTFS Partition 231 GB Healthy System
Volume 2 NTFS Partition 590 MB Healthy Hidden
Volume 3 E HDDCADDY NTFS Partition 465 GB Healthy
Volume 4 F SDCARD NTFS Removable 119 GB Healthy

DISKPART> select disk 1

Disk 1 is now the selected disk.

DISKPART> detail disk

ST500LT012-1DG142
Disk ID: FFFFFFFF
Type : SATA
Status : Online
Path : 1
Target : 0
LUN ID : 0
Location Path : PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1F02)#ATA(C01T00L00)
Current Read-only State : No
Read-only : No
Boot Disk : No
Pagefile Disk : No
Hibernation File Disk : No
Crashdump Disk : No
Clustered Disk : No

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 3 E HDDCADDY NTFS Partition 465 GB Healthy

DISKPART> list partition

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 465 GB 1024 KB

DISKPART> select partition 1

Partition 1 is now the selected partition.

DISKPART> detail partition

Partition 1
Type : 07
Hidden: No
Active: No
Offset in Bytes: 1048576

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 3 E HDDCADDY NTFS Partition 465 GB Healthy

DISKPART> select partition 2

The specified partition is not valid.
Please select a valid partition.

There is no partition selected.

DISKPART> select partition 3

The specified partition is not valid.
Please select a valid partition.

There is no partition selected.

DISKPART> select partition 4

The specified partition is not valid.
Please select a valid partition.

There is no partition selected.

DISKPART> select disk 2

Disk 2 is now the selected disk.

DISKPART> detail disk

SDXC Card
Disk ID: 81FF17AC
Type : USB
Status : Online
Path : 0
Target : 0
LUN ID : 0
Location Path : UNAVAILABLE
Current Read-only State : No
Read-only : No
Boot Disk : No
Pagefile Disk : No
Hibernation File Disk : No
Crashdump Disk : No
Clustered Disk : No

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 4 F SDCARD NTFS Removable 119 GB Healthy

DISKPART> list partition

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 119 GB 1024 KB

DISKPART> select partition 1

Partition 1 is now the selected partition.

DISKPART> detail partition

Partition 1
Type : 07
Hidden: No
Active: No
Offset in Bytes: 1048576

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 4 F SDCARD NTFS Removable 119 GB Healthy

DISKPART> select partition 2

The specified partition is not valid.
Please select a valid partition.

There is no partition selected.

DISKPART> select partition 3

The specified partition is not valid.
Please select a valid partition.

There is no partition selected.

DISKPART> select partition 4

The specified partition is not valid.
Please select a valid partition.

There is no partition selected.



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Windows Is installed on SSD in the main internal sata slot, the other hdd caddy Is wiped, rebuilt mbr, clean.
I have tried to install another different hdd in the caddy and it works without ant random problems!! So the problem Is the hdd used before in the caddy, that Is this in the picture. I can't understand what's wrong with this hdd, what cause these problems!
Thanks all for any suggestion