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  1. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #41

    Windows 10 still has System Restore.

    I find it useful, but it is NOT a replica of one or more hard drive partitions like imaging. And if your drive quits working, you aren't going to have access to System Restore. It's not a disaster recovery mechanism. And it's less reliable--occasionally it won't run to completion. But it's a decent first step to try to go back in time a bit to a prior state. If it fails, then maybe you fire up Macrium if you can't otherwise fix the problem.

    I've had Macrium for probably 10 years, but I've only restored an image 2 or 3 times--when I was in big time trouble and thought I'd have to reinstall Windows. But I know some people use it a lot more often when they are having relatively minor issues. They'd rather go to Macrium than try to trouble-shoot the problem.
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  2. Posts : 31,398
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #42

    ImLost said:
    ... hard to understand diff between having an image on a usb, vs going to the recov/reset on the comp.....it says I can keep personal stuff.....and I'm assuming that means the things I added or changed, bkmks, pswds, shtcuts, the way I have it set up.....after the new as-is condition?
    The difference....

    A Reset will be as if you have just installed windows. Yes you can keep your documents, but you will loose any software you installed that didn't come with Windows when you first turned it on out of the box. One of the thing that will be removed is Macrium, along with anything else you may install in the future (such as games, or browsers like Chrome or Firefox).

    An image is a snapshot of the machine exactly as it was when you made the image. If you restore the image your PC will be exactly the same as it was when you made the image. All the software you may have installed up to the time you made the image will still be installed and working.

    To be able to do a Reset, you have to be able to start windows. If it somehow got corrupted so badly that it won't even boot you'd be stuck. With an image it wouldn't matter, even if the drive died and had to be replaced. You'd still be able to restore the image to a new empty drive and carry on as if nothing had happened.

    So, an image is your insurance policy. You may never need it, but if the worst happens you be glad you had it.
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  3. Posts : 31,398
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #43

    ignatzatsonic said:
    ...But I know some people use it a lot more often when they are having relatively minor issues. They'd rather go to Macrium than try to trouble-shoot the problem.
    Sometimes the issues are self-inflicted. Inexperience can lead to making silly mistakes you'd regret later if you didn't have an image to go back to.
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  4. Posts : 1,345
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #44

    As a reminder since you don't have your prior thread available anymore
    In post #37 you asked
    "On the “"Recovery" and "Reset This PC", which "reinstalls windows and lets you choose to keep your personal files or remove them".....the same thing as what I go thru putting everything on the 64usb stick?
    Also under "More Recovery Options" it says I can start fresh with a clean installation of windows.”

    I answered
    "Those are used for various situations: some will save your data, some won’t. Saving your applications most likely will not happen that I'm aware of.
    --- The value of a system image backup is your data, applications and the way you have tweaked your computer are all saved.
    --- The other methods you mention might do some of that but not all of that."

    I know it's difficult to understand depending on the different situations that can happen but does "The value of a system image backup is your data, applications and the way you have tweaked your computer are all saved." make sense to you?
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  5. Posts : 365
    W10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
       #45

    Think I'm asking too many questions within one post.
    Just cant see differences in when a usb image is better vs using recov/reset/restore in the machine.....if/when one wont work depending if machine will or wont turn on the normal way

    Starting to think about tossing all this. I need things basic and simple. Trouble seeing differences, in as-new image on a usb vs using the recov/reset feature vs restore point.........if comp turns on the normal way.

    So if its running crappy, the as-new image on the usb sounds like the same thing I'd get using the recov/reset or using a restore point. Because the first brand new as-is image has no added stuff/changes/shortcuts, etc., it is not set up the certain way I will be using it.......isn't that image the same as what the recov/reset/restore feature will give me?

    (***EDIT***.....didn't see a few previous posts when I just clicked this one......don't want to look extra computer-dumb)
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  6. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #46

    ImLost said:
    Because the first brand new as-is image has no added stuff/changes/shortcuts, etc., it is not set up the certain way I will be using it.......isn't that image the same as what the recov/reset/restore feature will give me?
    Reset apparently takes you back to when you had just installed Windows.

    An image file made right after you installed Windows will do pretty much the same thing.

    But.....

    What about 3 months from now, on November 11, after you've installed a bunch of applications and have everything configured and running well?

    Reset would take you back to August, just after you'd installed Windows.

    Imaging would take you back to the last time you made an image. That could be August right after you installed Windows.

    Or imaging could take you back to November 10------IF you made an image file on November 10. One day into the past.

    That's the idea: imaging returns you to the date of the image.

    NOT just to when you installed Windows.

    System Restore points are not as reliable and are NOT available AT ALL if your drive drops dead.

    I've never even considered "reset" because I don't want to go back to right after I installed Windows.

    I want to go back to a more recent date, when my PC was full of applications and was properly configured and was running well. I make a new image file once a month.

    I always have 3: one right after I installed Windows, another from 2 months back, and another from last month. I can restore any of them. I'm never more than a month out of date.
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  7. Posts : 365
    W10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
       #47

    Guys are saying to do first image now/new computer - but, it is in fact same result as doing the reset thing.

    "...if the drive quits...".......I'd probably toss the whole thing, not send out for repair anyway.

    You've only had to restore an image 2 or 3 times in 10 years? Sounds like I'm rackin my brain for nothing.
    You always have 3 images ready to go? Way over my head.

    Sounding more like I should forget about all this.....or maybe try to do image after I'm all tweaked.
    Cant drag this on again for nothing.
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  8. Posts : 347
    Windows 10 Home Version 21H1 OS Build 19045.2130
       #48

    If you are happy with how your pc is working now, you have nothing to lose by creating an image now, have you?
    "...if the drive quits..."... is not the only problem you can have. Viruses, ransomware etc can be solved by restoring a previous image which was made when your pc was clean.
    As I said, what do you have to lose?
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  9. Posts : 31,398
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #49

    ImLost said:
    Sounding more like I should forget about all this.....or maybe try to do image after I'm all tweaked.
    Cant drag this on again for nothing.
    Making your first image can seem a bit overwhelming, but once you've done one it will be familiar and easier next time.

    The advantage of doing one sooner rather than later is if you get in a muddle doing your tweaks you can take just one step back by restoring an image rather than start all over again after a reset.

    The advantage of doing another one after you're done tweaking is that if you pick up any malware you can go back to your system tweaked as you want it rather than having to tweak all over again.

    Or you could just forget about it and keep your fingers crossed nothing bad happens.

    You certainly sound like you could do with a break. Take your time and think things over - come back when you're ready and well take it from there...
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  10. Posts : 1,097
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.437)
       #50

    @ImLost I've been watching your thread here and have learned as much as you. I'm only a couple of weeks ahead of you with Macrium Reflect. It and Win 10 are both vastly different from my old XP Pro system I last had.

    You're doing well in this process. You have some knowledgeable and excellent guides giving you the steps to follow. Don't get discouraged. Fear of failure has cost more dreams than actual failure has. The same can be said for us here. Being older I'm not as intrepid as I once was. An Image I can restore has afforded me some measure of confidence that if I botch my PC, I probably can recover from it. Good luck to both of us.
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