Windows 10 Index broken please help

plugs · 15 Jul 2018

Sorry just seen posts I have tried the trouble shooter lots of times. Always finds nothing will try other suggestions now.

plugs · 15 Jul 2018

Downloaded and ran BAT no change. But it may help to know that with all the reading I did I found

1. SetupCompletedSuccessfully = 0
2. Delete Windows.edb file

I have done both of these before. In fact I saw a tip suggesting delete everything in the ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data and I did this. I just recreated the Application\Windows folders under Data as it was empty just in case it needed those paths as well.

Restarted still no Windows.edb file . Search service is running.

plugs · 15 Jul 2018

Will now try Tweaking.com stuff

dalchina · 15 Jul 2018

New user? (previous post) - this tells us if Windows is broken or just your profile.

Enable or Disable Advanced Indexing Options in Windows | Windows 10 Tutorials
Option 2- try toggling that- registry option.

If you find that the same applies when logged in as a new user, I can then only suggest you try an in-place upgrade repair install which keeps all progs and data and most settings.

plugs · 15 Jul 2018

New User local account and add family member both fail the same. Not surprised as ProgramData is a shared folder for all accounts and not part of the user profile i.e. under the user AppData . Have also run every repair in Tweaking.com app .

So is it really the only option to do an in place upgrade ? Seems like a very big hammer .....

dalchina · 15 Jul 2018

Problem is we don't know a precise fix. I agree- and there's always the chance it doesn't fix it. Feel free to research further- maybe the answer's 'out there'.

I did find this, but interesting, rather than sort of solution:
windows 10 - Context Menu of Pinned File in Taskbar - Where is this File? - Super User

This is why it's a good idea to use System Restore, and why we urge people to use disk imaging routinely.
Unfortunately neither of those is great when you suddenly find something wrong and don't know when it started. Then you hope to find a targetted fix either by simple logic, certain tools, or internet research.

On the other hand, little bar time is lost in trying it. And if it does fix it, saves much more spent trying to find a fix.

lx07 · 15 Jul 2018

plugs said:

Seems like a very big hammer .....

Not really. It only takes 20 minutes once you have downloaded the ISO and the result is the same as all these Microsoft upgrades we get every six months. As @dalchina said above you keep your installed programs, users, data etc.

I'm not convinced it will work as upgrades don't involve re-indexing as far as I remember but it is worth a try.

Just a thought - you haven't changed ownership on %programdata% have you by any chance? You could check using icacls command - see if the authorities look the same for these subdirectories:

Code:

PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search> icacls data
data BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(IO)(F)
     BUILTIN\Administrators:(CI)(F)
     NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(IO)(F)
     NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(CI)(F)

Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search> cd data
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\data> icacls .\Applications\
.\Applications\ BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(IO)(F)
                BUILTIN\Administrators:(CI)(F)
                NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(IO)(F)
                NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(CI)(F)

Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\data> cd .\Applications\
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\data\Applications> icacls .\Windows\
.\Windows\ BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(IO)(F)
           BUILTIN\Administrators:(CI)(F)
           NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(IO)(F)
           NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(CI)(F)

Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\data\Applications> cd .\Windows\
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\data\Applications\Windows> icacls .\Windows.edb
.\Windows.edb BUILTIN\Administrators:(F)
              NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(F)

Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\data\Applications\Windows>

dalchina · 15 Jul 2018

@lx07 - Hi, my thought on an in-place upgrade repair is not about re-indexing, but the hope that if some registry value or key is corrupt, for example, that it might be repaired. Or whatever the problem is.

That it occurs in a new user account as well is indicative.

I don't think SFC /SCANNOW has been tried here, but reported not to help in a similar case.

Tweaking.com repair tool has been used, so hopefully services are in their default state.

Only other thought would be to somehow identify relevant registry keys and compare... which could easily prove a significant waste of time.

plugs · 15 Jul 2018

I am not experienced enough to know if my differences would have any impact. Can you tell me if I need to do anything please .

Code:

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> cd\
PS C:\> cd programdata
PS C:\programdata> cd microsoft
PS C:\programdata\microsoft> cd search
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search> icacls data
data BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(IO)(F)
     BUILTIN\Administrators:(CI)(F)
     NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(IO)(F)
     NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(CI)(F)
     EAGLE\Test:(OI)(CI)(F)


Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search> cd data
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data> icacls .\Applications\
.\Applications\ BUILTIN\Administrators:(I)(OI)(IO)(F)
                BUILTIN\Administrators:(I)(CI)(F)
                NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(I)(OI)(IO)(F)
                NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(I)(CI)(F)
                EAGLE\Test:(I)(OI)(CI)(F)


Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data> cd .\Applications\
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\Applications> icacls .\Windows\
.\Windows\ BUILTIN\Administrators:(I)(OI)(IO)(F)
           BUILTIN\Administrators:(I)(CI)(F)
           NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(I)(OI)(IO)(F)
           NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(I)(CI)(F)
           EAGLE\Test:(I)(OI)(CI)(F)


Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\Applications> cd windows
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\Applications\windows> icacls .\Windows.edb
.\Windows.edb: The system cannot find the file specified.
Successfully processed 0 files; Failed processing 1 files
PS C:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\Applications\windows>

plugs · 15 Jul 2018

I have done SFC /SCANNOW many times

Windows 10 Index broken please help

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