Windows 10: Privacy issues with Windows 10 April 2018 update

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  1.    08 Jul 2018 #21

    EdTittel said: View Post
    Hey, it's a matter of personal choice as I said in my Win10.Guru post. But if everybody chooses to forgo telemetry we all lose as a consequence, because it is an important source of feedback.--Ed--
    Nice reading Ed, even, if I don't fully agree with you...

    Telemetry should not be forced on people, especially the way MS decided to roll out this "feature". Had MS be open about telemetry from the beginning, instead of hiding its existence and content from people, the chances are that there would not be a “Tin-Foil Hat Brigade.”

    The benefits of telemetry collection is questionable at best in light of MS updates stability and their inherent risk of breaking one's system, especially the future updates. There's a reason why, like some people, I don't apply security patches at least for couple of weeks and future updates for couple of month. I'd rather take chances with malware, than apply MS patches on the day they have been released.
    Full disclosure: I do the same with my Apple devices as well...

    The size of the MS telemetry collection sort of reminds me to the NSA Utah Data Center. And just like that data center, that cannot really prevent anything, neither can the MS rely on the collected telemetry data to predict issues with their periodic updates. At least they have not been able to do that as of yet...
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  2.    08 Jul 2018 #22

    It would be of interest to see an account of how telemetry resulted in MS releasing an update to correct real problems experienced following the release of an upgrade.

    Such a story - if such exists- might convince people one way or the other.
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  3.    09 Jul 2018 #23

    dalchina said: View Post
    It would be of interest to see an account of how telemetry resulted in MS releasing an update to correct real problems experienced following the release of an upgrade.

    Such a story - if such exists- might convince people one way or the other.
    Equally, one story proving MS have ever used data in a nefarious manner would be interesting. It is funny that after three years nobody has ever found a single case. Is it because MS are telling the truth?

    The talk about NSA/MI5 etc is just so laughable to be ridiculous really. Does any rational user think they are interested just because a person visits a porn site (legitimate ones complying with legal regulations). If "spying" helps catch paedophiles or terrorists I am all for it, and I would make it a criminal offence to circumvent it.
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  4.    09 Jul 2018 #24

    Let me say it again, MS is probably most scrutinized large organization in the world. EU would be among first to jump at any opportunity to at least grab a few billions in fines or to outright forbid such collection and usage of data.
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  5.    09 Jul 2018 #25

    cereberus said: View Post
    If "spying" helps catch paedophiles or terrorists I am all for it, and I would make it a criminal offence to circumvent it.
    I dare the powers that be to even think about criminalizing the circumvention of telemetry.
    I double dog dare them.
    I triple dog dare them.

    They would have to put me down like a rabid dog because I am not going to comply with an edict of unmitigated evil.
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       09 Jul 2018 #26

    CountMike said: View Post
    EU would be among first to jump at any opportunity to at least grab a few billions in fines or to outright forbid such collection and usage of data.
    I'm surprised that the EU hasn't, given the outcry over IE being bundled with Windows and the new GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) legislation.

    IMO, tracking that can't be disabled is far worse, than including a browser that no one has to use.
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       09 Jul 2018 #27

    When I signed up for the Windows 10 Preview in October 2014, I was told what information would be collected and how it would be used, so there was no secret made about what would be collected.

    Since I don't do anything I shouldn't be doing, I have no problem with Microsoft collecting what they need to make Windows 10 better for me.
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  8.    09 Jul 2018 #28

    risug said: View Post
    I dare the powers that be to even think about criminalizing the circumvention of telemetry.
    I double dog dare them.
    I triple dog dare them.

    They would have to put me down like a rabid dog because I am not going to comply with an edict of unmitigated evil.
    I was just playing Devil's Advocate just to make people think rather than blindly making unsubstantiated statements about NSA etc.

    Of course, it could not be made a legal requirement - that would kill Windows (unless such a Draconian measure was applied to every OS out there).
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  9.    10 Jul 2018 #29

    Wynona said: View Post
    Since I don't do anything I shouldn't be doing,
    Yuck.
    Fortunately, that Gestapo what-do-you-have-to-hide? line of thinking is not prevalent amongst legislators.
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       10 Jul 2018 #30

    risug said: View Post
    Yuck.
    Fortunately, that Gestapo what-do-you-have-to-hide? line of thinking is not prevalent amongst legislators.
    Hmmmm, don't know if I've been insulted or congratulated.
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