After new update, search don't work (system restore, update)

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  1. dalchina's Avatar
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       #31

    a. The way you have described the indexed locations shows that's wrong. There has to be something under Users for the Settings search to work, but you said there is no such entry.

    1. Click/tap on the Download button below to download the .bat file below.

    Reset_and_Rebuild_Search_Index.bat


    2. Save the .bat file to your desktop.

    3. Unblock the .bat file.

    4. Right click or press and hold on the .bat file, and click/tap on Run as administrator.

    5. When prompted by UAC, click/tap on Yes to approve.

    6. The search index will now start to rebuild in the background.

    - did you run as admin? Please try again, and look for a change in indexing options - locations.

    b. Have you tried as I suggested a while back creating a new user for test purposes, logging in as that user and trying search (Cortana and Settings)?
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  2. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #32

    Unblocked and ran the bat file as admin. It reset the folders (again). Start Menu and Users (exclude appdata; appdata) are now what is listed in indexed locations. Rebuilding completed. Progress!



    It now finds and launches the system protection window when typing "system restore"! It still won't find anything under Windows update" though - "No results found for 'windows update'".
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  3. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #33

    I may have stumbled onto a possible reason for search dropping some of these items. I say possible reason, because I'm not sure this is the cause.

    I run ccleaner on occasion to clean out garbage (I never use the registry portion) and I never use the winapp2.ini file, which is an add-on file with more directories to clean. I've used it for years and never ran into issues as I am careful what I have checked off. A while before the update yesterday, I did run it, and this time I used winapp2.ini. I carefully went through the list to make sure I didn't check off anything I wasn't sure about. I just checked the list again, and one option I notice I had checked is "ms search more" which sounded safe enough. A Google search took me to a thread where this was mentioned:

    "MS Search More* which included in winapp2.ini does remove indexing db"

    Also there are several threads on ccleaner's site that mention issues with cleaning search in ccleaner/winapp2.ini:

    Corrupted indexing due to MS SEARCH option! - CCleaner Bug Reporting - Piriform Community Forums
    Windows search corruption and Index rebuild - CCleaner Discussion - Piriform Community Forums

    Now, the weird thing is, I swear I typed in system restore in the search box before I ran windows update yesterday evening, so I'm pretty sure it was working after I ran ccleaner/winapp2.ini. But maybe I'm getting my timeline wrong and I'm mistaken. So I'm guessing it's possible the winapp2.ini was too aggressive and deleted some indexing files.

    Still, I would imagine it would just rebuilt the index, unless something broke. At any rate, that bat file seems to have fixed some of the problem. It now finds system restore but still doesn't find windows update. Really odd.
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  4. dalchina's Avatar
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       #34

    Good, can you confirm you can search and find things in the Start Menu (e.g. Mail, Alarms, something you've installed)?

    Now launch Settings, and try a search there. Bear in mind Cortana search for Windows Update will aim to find the Settings location.
    After new update, search don't work (system restore, update)-untitled.png

    b. Have you tried as I suggested a while back creating a new user for test purposes, logging in as that user and trying search (Cortana and Settings)?
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  5. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #35

    I can find my software, mail, alarms in the search box fine now.

    But when I search for "windows update" in settings, it still finds nothing.





    Haven't tried creating a new user yet, that's the one thing I haven't gotten to yet.
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  6. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 24,274
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #36

    You can try this ref Settings, but I suspect it isn't your problem:
    Settings search not working - Microsoft Community
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  7. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #37

    dalchina said:
    You can try this ref Settings, but I suspect it isn't your problem:
    Settings search not working - Microsoft Community
    Just took a look and that setting is already checked for the localstate indexed folder.
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  8. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 24,274
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #38

    Try new user to confirm it is user profile related.

    In your original user:
    a. Confirm indexing is complete.

    b. Confirm
    %LocalAppData%\Packages\windows.immersivecontrolpanel_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState
    is included in Indexing Options.

    If still no luck with current user, re-register Settings using instructions at the head of the section containing the Powershell command for Settings:
    Reinstall and Re-register Apps in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
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  9. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #39

    Before I go through the process of creating (and then deleting) another user account, are there any other settings in the Privacy settings that may cause this indexing issue I'm having (Windows update not showing in the search bar or settings search)?

    Also, I have Shutup10 installed, and I may have made a couple new changes after the update. I'm wondering if any of those options are blocking indexing from fully functioning? Here are the current settings I have for Shutup10:





    I'm wondering if I'm just blocking some of the indexing features somehow. Windows 10 is quite the chatterbox so I have shuttup10 for both privacy reasons and to control some of the HDD activity.
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  10. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #40

    Something else I just noticed - going back to ccleaner/winapp2.ini again, I see under the category "Windows store" both "Cortana" and "Immersive Control Panel" were checked off. "Immersive Control Panel" is the LocalState indexed folder. Again, this is the first time I've run ccleaner using winapp2.ini, so this is the first time those have been cleaned. I'm still thinking maybe that's what happened here, but it still doesn't explain why Windows isn't just re-indexing everything properly. It seems to be indexing most stuff, but some of the Windows apps are being skipped oddly, like Windows update.

    Adding to this, I saw this comment on answers.microsoft.com:

    "After some research I found that the Control Panel options are in the folder "C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\Packages\windows.immersivecontrolpanel_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState \Indexed" and that Windows 10 excludes from index everything from the "AppData" folder, because it contains ever-changing temporary files which triggers re-indexing affecting system performance.

    I worked around it by creating a shortcut of "C:\Users\...\LocalState\Indexed" in the folder "C:\Users\YourUserName". Minutes after that I observed that the Indexing Service started to add more items and after 15 minutes or so the problem was solved."

    So even though currently "Start Menu" and "Users" (default settings) are listed under indexing options, and under modify I see the localstate indexing folder is checked off, maybe it's not being indexed because of the exclusions in indexing - "Appdata; Appdata"?

    EDIT: Tried the indexing folder shortcut method mentioned above, and it still didn't help. I also noticed screensaver is another search term that isn't bringing up any results. I used to be able to type in "screensaver" and it would list the screensaver settings. Now it lists some individual screensavers I have installed but not the Windows screensaver settings app.
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