After new update, search don't work (system restore, update)

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  1. dalchina's Avatar
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       #21

    If I index my system32 folder, would that possibly index some of these missing functions? I guess it wouldn't hurt to try.
    No, as I said, that's not going to help. You need to get the basics right.

    ** If you can't re-register Cortana using the Tutorial instructions, it shows something is more seriously amiss.

    Suggest you go back to basic checks:
    a. Check your disk e.g. Hard Disk Sentinel (trial) - good prog- else HD Tune (free).
    b. From an admin command or Powershell prompt run
    chkdsk c: /scan

    If ok then similarly
    SFC /SCANNOW
    and report results.
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  2. Posts : 426
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       #22

    - Ran SFC /SCANNOW:

    "Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations."

    Hard disk reports good - no errors to report.

    I have chkdsk scheduled to run in the morning when I restart my PC.
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  3. dalchina's Avatar
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       #23

    Good- if pass then try re-registering Cortana.
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  4. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
    Thread Starter
       #24

    Ran chkdsk this morning and all was ok:

    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required


    Tried re-registering Cortana following your link. Ran:

    PowerShell -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Command "& {$manifest = (Get-AppxPackage *Windows.Cortana*).InstallLocation + '\AppxManifest.xml' ; Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register $manifest}"

    under an elevated command prompt. I got a bit of green text briefly and then it disappeared and it went back to the command prompt again. No confirmation or errors or anything so I have no idea if it went well or not. Rebuilt search again and it still won't find mail, windows update, system restore. Currently the only locations being indexed are "LocalState" and "Start Menu". Is it possible the start menu or LocalState folder somehow had some entries deleted and that's why some of these items aren't showing up in search? Should I be able to find system restore, mail or windows update in the start menu?
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  5. reddice's Avatar
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       #25

    Okay it is a easy fix. Don't waste time running that useless sfc /scannow, download trial software or uninstall your AV. Don't rebuild the index or do dangerous Powershell commands that can make things worse another waste of time.

    You have to manually go into the settings app. Privacy, background apps, make sure let apps run the background is on. Searching will work now and then you can turn off background apps. Remember whenever you install a big RS update you will have to do that again.
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  6. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
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       #26

    reddice said:
    Okay it is a easy fix. Don't waste time running that useless sfc /scannow, download trial software or uninstall your AV. Don't rebuild the index or do dangerous Powershell commands that can make things worse another waste of time.

    You have to manually go into the settings app. Privacy, background apps, make sure let apps run the background is on. Searching will work now and then you can turn off background apps. Remember whenever you install a big RS update you will have to do that again.
    Nice try, but I already mentioned previously that I did that. "Let apps run in the background" is already on.
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  7. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
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       #27

    Should the "system protection" window (which should list when typing "create a system restore" and windows update be listed in the start menu? I can't find them in there, and I browsed to:

    AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    and I don't see any shortcuts for system restore or windows update or system protection. Should those be in the start folder? I get the feeling for some reason maybe the shortcuts for some of this stuff somehow isn't where they should be any more so it isn't indexed.
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  8. dalchina's Avatar
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       #28

    Should I be able to find system restore, mail or windows update in the start menu?
    No, Yes, No.

    If you look at your Start Menu can you see e.g.
    Alarms & Clock, Mail and other such apps?

    Your start menu shortcuts are in
    C:\Users\<your user id>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
    and
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
    (=all users)

    Think of one program (not universal app) which you have installed. Can you see the shortcuts for that in the Start Menu?
    A screenshot of your Start Menu might be helpful. (Use PrtSc or equivalent)

    Have you tried as I suggested a while back creating a new user for test purposes, logging in as that user and trying search (Cortana and Settings)?

    Currently the only locations being indexed are "LocalState" and "Start Menu".
    *** This is wrong.

    Did you do what I asked a long time back to reset the search index to default????

    You could try option 3 here:
    Rebuild Search Index in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    Please do exactly that, then post a screenshot of your Indexing Options, then whenthe index is rebuilt, recheck your Cortana and Settings search.
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  9. reddice's Avatar
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       #29

    rivre said:
    Nice try, but I already mentioned previously that I did that. "Let apps run in the background" is already on.
    I am out of ideas. That is why I despise the new stupid Settings app and stupid Start menu. Why can't MS just leave the older Control Panel and bring back the W7 start menu. Wait leave feedback no thanks MS ignores feedback I will write Santa for Christmas I will get a better response then useless feedback.
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  10. Posts : 426
    Windows 10 64-bit Ver 1909, OS build 18363.535
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       #30

    dalchina said:
    No, Yes, No.

    If you look at your Start Menu can you see e.g.
    Alarms & Clock, Mail and other such apps?

    Your start menu shortcuts are in
    C:\Users\<your user id>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
    and
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
    (=all users)

    Think of one program (not universal app) which you have installed. Can you see the shortcuts for that in the Start Menu?
    A screenshot of your Start Menu might be helpful. (Use PrtSc or equivalent)

    Have you tried as I suggested a while back creating a new user for test purposes, logging in as that user and trying search (Cortana and Settings)?


    *** This is wrong.

    Did you do what I asked a long time back to reset the search index to default????
    Yes, I did that, as I said I did. It reset to default, and that did nothing to improve my situation.

    Alarms & Clock, Mail are both listed in the start menu.

    I have a long list of software in the start menu. I have lots of software and small apps for different tasks installed, so I can't say if they are all there, but it appears they are. I checked my start menu folders under roaming and app data, and did a quick comparison to backups I made a while back of those folders, and they're pretty much the same with a few minor changes due to changes in software since I backed them up last.
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