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  1. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 282
    Windows 10!
       01 Aug 2015 #11

    ignatzatsonic said: View Post
    "Cheaped out" in what way?
    That it's only tied to 1 machine, just like with an upgrade from 7/8 OEM.
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  2. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 1,372
    Win 10 14393.51
       01 Aug 2015 #12

    John Pombrio said: View Post
    Good to know! But you may not know why the install worked. MS started requiring the use of using the BIOS to store the Win8 product key on the motherboard back in 2012. So when your friend's "clean install" was done, it was not on a new computer but one that already have a valid Win8.1 product key embedded in the mobo. That product key was the reason why the computer was able to register. I am not sure if registered means activated tho. Could you check with him and see if it says that it is activated?
    I think that this mechanism is a lot more plausible:

    Windows 10 Tip: Associate Your PC with Your Free Windows 10 License - Thurrott.com
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  3. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 42
    Windows 10
       01 Aug 2015 #13

    OP: Let me get this straight.

    You should pay $199 now because otherwise you MIGHT have to pay $199 a year from now?!?

    In what world does this make any sort of logical sense?
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Manchester CT
    Posts : 272
    Windows 10 Fast Ring
       01 Aug 2015 #14

    PRMan said: View Post
    OP: Let me get this straight.

    You should pay $199 now because otherwise you MIGHT have to pay $199 a year from now?!?

    In what world does this make any sort of logical sense?
    Say I build a new computer a year and half from now. I have a LOT of Win7 and Win8.1 licenses but in order to get Win10, I would have to load in a copy of the old OS and upgrade to Win10. But Win10 upgrade is no longer around so no free upgrade. Nor could I use a preexisting Win10 copy moved over. So I need to buy a retail version of Win10 Pro. Now I KNOW that I will be building computers in the future so why not just buy the retail Win 10 Pro now? If my computer goes hinky in the meantime, I have a valid way to just load in Win10 from scratch.
    Besides, I have used OEM versions of Windows in the past and they can be a pain. I much rather have a retail version of windows which is a lot more useful.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Manchester CT
    Posts : 272
    Windows 10 Fast Ring
       01 Aug 2015 #15

    bobkn said: View Post
    Terrific find. Thanks bobkn! I did not know that MS stores your PC's info into your MS account. No wonder I could not find the MSDM table in my BIOS. I have been using Windows since Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I have seen a least 7 different ways MS has used to prevent theft of the software. This would make number 8.
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  6. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 142
    dual boot win10/win7
       01 Aug 2015 #16

    bromanbro said: View Post
    That it's only tied to 1 machine, just like with an upgrade from 7/8 OEM.
    Not any more, seems they changed that a little while ago. If you upgrade a retail windows retail instal, then you keep retail rights (associated with your original key #, I believe).

    from here: http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-upgrade-and-installation-frequently-asked-questions
    Last edited by mrpumpkin; 01 Aug 2015 at 13:28.
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  7. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 1,372
    Win 10 14393.51
       01 Aug 2015 #17

    John Pombrio said: View Post
    Terrific find. Thanks bobkn! I did not know that MS stores your PC's info into your MS account. No wonder I could not find the MSDM table in my BIOS. I have been using Windows since Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I have seen a least 7 different ways MS has used to prevent theft of the software. This would make number 8.
    I'm not certain of this, but I believe that it is not associated with your MSA (Microsoft Account.)
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  8.    01 Aug 2015 #18

    John Pombrio said: View Post
    Good to know! But you may not know why the install worked. MS started requiring the use of using the BIOS to store the Win8 product key on the motherboard back in 2012. So when your friend's "clean install" was done, it was not on a new computer but one that already have a valid Win8.1 product key embedded in the mobo. That product key was the reason why the computer was able to register. I am not sure if registered means activated tho. Could you check with him and see if it says that it is activated?


    yes it is a full active version of his copy that he loaded on his pc, also to reply why would you go buy win 10 when all you have to do is d-load with the media creation tool make a cd and keep it handy for your next install and if you have a valid win 8.1 pro or 7 it will install on that pc.
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 11
    windows 8
       01 Aug 2015 #19

    Windows 10 Free Upgrade Offer is valid for qualified Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 devices,
    including devices you already own.
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  10. Joined : Jul 2015
    沖縄県
    Posts : 119
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 Aug 2015 #20

    I do the windows 10 pro clean install without any problem :/
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