Windows 10: Load, Stay Resident, Open Quickly

  1. Stevekir's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
       15 Jun 2018 #1

    Load, Stay Resident, Open Quickly


    Adobe InDesign takes a long time to load, much slower than Photoshop (for example). When I was on a Mac, an application, once manually launched, stayed running but in the background ("stayed resident" is a term I have heard). Its icon at the bottom of the screen had something to tell me that it was launched. When its icon was clicked on, the app opened immediately, ready for use, and when that (or all) its files were closed, the app stayed resident ready in the background for immediate opening again. (I have lots of RAM and HD space.)

    How can I set this up in windows please?

    Thanks.
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  2. bro67's Avatar
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    Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.5
       15 Jun 2018 #2

    That is because Linux and BSD OS's are able to better manage memory by taking a snapshot and saving it to allow quick access. Windows has to do so much swapping, that it thinks longer when it has to figure out what programs to open up space. Adobe has started to go to a Cloud platform, which is also causing some delays.
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  3.    15 Jun 2018 #3

    Hi, In Win 10, if the icon on the taskbar has a line at the bottom, that means that program has been launched, and at least part of it is resident in RAM.
    Its icon at the bottom of the screen had something to tell me that it was launched.
    Here you can see Firefox has been launched (but is minimised) whilst Waterfox, to its right, has been launched but its windows is open. Explorer has not been launched.
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    If you mean you have already launched Adobe InDesign, and it is minimised, and maximising it takes a long time, that's one issue.
    If you mean Adobe InDesign takes a long time to load after launching it for the first time, that's another- you might gain some benefit by using a SSD.

    I find that Firefox does take some time to load- and I have a SSD.

    Maximising programs is almost instant.
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  4.    15 Jun 2018 #4

    All of my programs stay resident. If you don't close them ... they stay.

    Or ... get an SSD. I have NI Kontakt with six pianos loaded. That's close to 2 GB loaded into RAM whenever I start it up.
    On my old computer that took a couple of minutes.
    On the new one, with SSD, it takes just seconds.
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  5. Stevekir's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
    Thread Starter
       15 Jun 2018 #5

    Mistake. finger trouble.
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  6. Stevekir's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
    Thread Starter
       15 Jun 2018 #6

    For Dalchina:

    tenforums might mess up the formatting of this message, so please see the attached Word version immediately below this line:

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    I have a 256 MB SSD.

    1. It seems that the minimizing process concerning a program which has been launched simply means that the focus previously on it is removed, and this occurs when the mouse is clicked on another program already launched, or on another program not yet launched, or somewhere on the desktop. The program remains "in the browser".

    2. If a program has the focus, any keyboard or mouse clicks will be directed to it and not elsewhere.

    3. Correct? I think so.

    4.Times in seconds as follows:

    Maximizing a program is almost instantaneous.

    Launching Re-launching after
    after a restart closing
    Firefox 2 1
    Word 2013 2 1
    Mailbird 0.5 0.3
    InDesign CS6 7 3

    All of these seem faster than up to last night, especially InDesign at 7 sec. I wonder if there was an update to Windows then or something. Whatever the reason, these times are OK for me now.

    5. The table above shows that a program once launched and minimised stays in memory (ready for a quick re-opening), like the Mac.

    Thanks to bro67 and margrave55
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  7.    16 Jun 2018 #7

    Simplistically:
    If your available RAM is larger than the total RAM requirement of programs loaded, then paging might not occur. (This is a complicated topic).

    If the total RAM requirement of programs loaded exceeds that available, paging occurs, and maximising programs can become constrained by disk and transfer speeds.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...ent-in-windows
    Exploring Windows virtual memory management
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