Windows 10: Fingers crossed for 1803

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  1. hTconeM9user's Avatar
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       31 May 2018 #51

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    So it never gets any updates? Our Ubuntu systems have far more updates available than our Windows 10 systems. One could make the case that all OSes are beta, and stay that way.

    I'm not going to derail the thread, but Windows is far easier to use and troubleshoot. It wouldn't have the large market share if it wasn't. Simple tasks in Linux are far more complicated. You are making the mistake of assuming that YOU find Linux easier that it is. It isn't. Join a domain or install graphics drivers, then compare that to a Windows system. I like and use Ubuntu. I'm not bashing it, but it is no where near as user-friendly as Windows.
    Cheers to you on windows being easier no other system is as easy as windows and 10 is the best by far
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  2. hTconeM9user's Avatar
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       31 May 2018 #52

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    So you insult my experience without knowing anything about it, yet make a stupid comment like this? Please.

    Windows 10 has never NOT been free with a new computer. It's either included in the cost of the computer, or for ones that are self-built, you can use a license key from a previous version of Windows. Still works today.
    Ditto agree fully there with you
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  3. Berton's Avatar
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       31 May 2018 #53

    hTconeM9user said: View Post
    I myself look forward to all upgrades and updates.
    Ditto. I work on other people's computers and since most times I won't know in advance EXACTLY which Version of Windows is involved I have to "keep up with the times". But, having rehabbed a number of computers to be used, both Desktops and Notebooks, I don't have the level of fear about the Upgrades and ensuing updates as others may have.
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  4.    31 May 2018 #54

    hTconeM9user said: View Post
    Ditto agree fully there with you
    For crying out loud, Windows 10 is not and never was free.

    The upgrade was free provided you had a qualifying licence but the upgrade does not give you a new licence. The upgrade gives you the right to use Windows 10 on same pc as original licence. It DOES NOT give you the right to use Windows 10 on a different PC retaining old OS on original PC.

    As has been pointed out by many users, strict interpretation of the EULA only permits you to have Windows 10 or original OS installed at any one time but not both at same time.

    If you buy a pc with it preinstalled, you still pay but cost is hidden.

    Summary: Windows 10 has never been free - only upgrades from a qualifying original licence!
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  5.    31 May 2018 #55

    Look guys, we all know that windows have bugs, problems etc. but anybody just maligning them or MS is preaching to wrong crowd, we are here to help each other as much as we can. If that helps MS too, well.... tough... that way we are helping countless others including complainers.
    Like my late father used to say. "If you have a complaint solve it or shut up".
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  6.    31 May 2018 #56

    CountMike said: View Post
    Look guys, we all know that windows have bugs, problems etc. but anybody just maligning them or MS is preaching to wrong crowd, we are here to help each other as much as we can. If that helps MS too, well.... tough... that way we are helping countless others including complainers.
    Like my late father used to say. "If you have a complaint solve it or shut up".
    Agreed - as HS Truman said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire'
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  7.    31 May 2018 #57

    Say I build a new PC, install Windows 10, and activate it with a previous, unused, retail license key from 7,8, or 8.1. It's legit, works, and I didn't need any form of payment. I'm calling that free, for crying out loud.

    As for the OEM machines, the included license is free. Why? Because if you ask for Windows 10 to be removed, trying to only buy the hardware, the overall cost is the same, as I've tried to do from several vendors for our Linux developers. I'm calling that free, for crying out loud.
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  8.    31 May 2018 #58

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    Say I build a new PC, install Windows 10, and activate it with a previous, unused, retail license key from 7,8, or 8.1. It's legit, works, and I didn't need any form of payment. I'm calling that free, for crying out loud.

    As for the OEM machines, the included license is free. Why? Because if you ask for Windows 10 to be removed, trying to only buy the hardware, the overall cost is the same, as I've tried to do from several vendors for our Linux developers. I'm calling that free, for crying out loud.
    Lol, they might even charge you to remove it. Besides, those OEM licenses to real manufacturers are just a fraction of the cost of retail licenses. Comparing to rest of system cost is very low. They probably pay more for advertising.
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  9.    31 May 2018 #59

    Hey, this is not about "windows is easier than linux" or "linux is better than windows".

    I started this to complain about how Windows 10 updates often break lots of things.

    For my part ... I just pine for the days of Windows 7 when ...
    - I took only the updates I wanted, and only when I wanted them
    - They seldom (ever?) broke things
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  10.    31 May 2018 #60

    margrave55 said: View Post
    Hey, this is not about "windows is easier than linux" or "linux is better than windows".

    I started this to complain about how Windows 10 updates often break lots of things.

    For my part ... I just pine for the days of Windows 7 when ...
    - I took only the updates I wanted, and only when I wanted them
    - They seldom (ever?) broke things
    Agreed and that's my recollection as well, W7 seldom (if ever) broke things. At least not to the level that W10 feature updates do nowadays.

    I do miss having control over the updates based on my needs and schedules. Yes, there are ways to control the updates, but regardless of the update setting, MS just steamrolls the controls sometimes. Maybe it's the price to pay, when the OS is provided as a services. It's not yours and you cannot control it anymore...
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