Windows 10: vro file

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  1. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #11

    "win7 is the same" - you mean Win7 Windows explorer also says the disk is empty?

    Denis
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  2.    24 May 2018 #12

    yes. iam sorry
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  3. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #13

    Sorry - when I said check it on "Windows 7" I meant to say "Windows XP" i.e. the OS that you had been using successfully before.

    I had been hoping that this would turn out to have a been a misunderstanding and your problem was simply confined to the application you were using to play the DVDs.

    If [Win10] File explorer and [Win7] Windows explorer say the disk is empty then I think the disk is defective but the final check will be if WinXP Windows explorer also says it is empty.

    Denis
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  4.    24 May 2018 #14

    i have sevrel disks , all of them working in winxp, all of them.not working in win7 and win10
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  5. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #15

    If you mean that the symptoms you have described are taken from File explorer / Windows explorer [rather than from some DVD player application] then I think that the problem is either that there is a consistent problem with the file system on the disks or the Win7, Win10 DVD drives have consistently dirty disks. N

    I think I once bought this problem on myself by using Win7 to eject disks. It 'finalised' the disks before ejecting and that was causing problems when I next tried reading the disks.

    I suggest that you download a trial version of ISOBuster to see if that confirms the disks contents. I will get together screenshots of good and bad disks to guide you - this will only take a few minutes.

    Denis
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  6. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #16

    In ISOBuster, I can copy the contents of readable & apparently unreadable DVD-RW disks containing [Sony] VRO format recordings. It has many other capabilities but I only use it for this purpose.

    [Updated images provided in a later post using the latest version, ISO Buster v4.1]

    This disk is fine - the list of recordings is shown with their titles. [Recordings 04-09 are actually one long recording that was edited on the Sony] You can see the File explorer entry just above ISOBuster's title bar, it shows that there is 207MB left available on the disk.
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    Incidentally, I have drawn a purple circle around ISOBuster's eject button. This allows ejection without letting Windows 7 / Windows 10 go through a disk finalisation routine [which would cause problems reading the disks later on - this might even be the cause of the apparent disk file system problems that you have been experiencing]. Pressing this button generates a warning that something else is controlling the disk but it allows you to force it to proceed - this is what you must do to avoid Win7/Win10 finalising the disk. I think, but my old notes are not clear enough on this point, that I could also avoid finalisation by using the button on the DVD drive to eject disks [in summary, use anything other than telling Windows to eject them].


    This disk is defective - the list of recordings is shown without their titles and with red Xs next to recordings containing unreadable sectors. You can see the File explorer entry just above ISOBuster's title bar, it shows that there is 4.38GB left available on this 4.38GB disk.
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    To copy the recordings to your computer, select one or many then right click and select Extract. These screenshots are of the bad disk and, in reality, I would probably only try to extract the first two VOB files from it as the others are bound to fail.
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    If these copies are unusable or if you are unsure about them, copy the VRO file itself [right-click, Extract] and try to use video editing software to extract individual recordings from it [I use VideoReDo] - I have managed to extract many recordings from the VRO files but have sometimes not been able to do so. I had often seen warnings about relying on DVD-RW / DVD+RW disks and I assume that this is the unrelibility that others have referred to.
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    I hope you are successful,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 24 May 2018 at 12:23.
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  7.    24 May 2018 #17

    thank you very much.
    i will.try it
    all of my discs that i am.transfer from the dvd to win10 are finilise. you say this is the problem and should unfinilize before moving to win 10
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  8. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #18

    No, I am not saying that. I am saying that I had problems letting Windows 7 do the finalising. I did not have any problems finalising disks on the DVD recorder and then playing them in the computer.

    Are you, like me, working your way through transferring your recordings to computer drives to avoid future problems with unreliable DVD+/-RWs? If so, you will be pleased to know that I have not had any playback problems on Windows 10 after extracting the contents using ISOBuster.
    - I can play the VOB files using WMP. WMP issues a warning that it can try but is not sure it can play this format and it then proceeds to play them correctly.
    - I can also play the VOB files using VLC.
    - I normally edit then save the files as .ts files using VideoReDo but could equally well save them as .mpg.
    - On a bare Windows 10 computer [I had just done a clean install], I could only play the .ts file in WMP by first installing mpeg-2 video extension, a free App from the Windows Store. My other installed applications normally take care of the necessary codecs so I have not had to do this before [I use PowerDVD for playing commercial DVDs and I assume this was what has been installing all the codecs for me].

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 25 May 2018 at 07:42.
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  9. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #19

    Their full product description is at IsoBuster description - Smart Projects

    This ISOBuster article might also be of interest How to recover VIDEO files and data from DVD with IsoBuster if you need to use it with other DVD disk types.

    Added a few minutes later - I have been searching for a particularly helpful ISOBuster support page for you and have only just found it. The part highlighted in yellow might interest you because it concerns a free alternative to the VideoReDo editor that I bought - How to fix a recovered but damaged video stream so that it can be played correctly again

    I bought ISOBuster v2.8.5 in 2011 and have just upgraded to v4.1 while exchanging posts with you here. I used v2.8.5 with Windows XP, Windows 7 & Windows 10. I only have Windows 10 now and I hope that v4.1 lasts me a lifetime or for the time it takes me to get around to finish copying my Sony VRO recordings across to my computers [whichever ends first].

    Denis
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  10. Posts : 925
    Windows 10 Home x64 and Pro x86
       24 May 2018 #20

    In ISOBuster, I can copy the contents of readable & of apparently unreadable DVD-RW disks containing [Sony] VRO format recordings. It has many other capabilities but I only use it for this purpose.
    - Their full product description is at IsoBuster description - Smart Projects
    - These ISOBuster articles might also be of interest How to recover VIDEO files and data from DVD with IsoBuster if you need to use it with other DVD disk types and How to fix a recovered but damaged video stream so that it can be played correctly again - The part highlighted in yellow might interest you because it concerns a free alternative to the VideoReDo editor that I bought.

    I upgraded to the latest ISOBuster [v4.1] yesterday. I had problems with it at first but contacted ISOBuster support and it turned out that I had missed a setting that v2.8.5 had included automatically.

    If you go to Options, Communication, Finding devices you can set 'Find and list optical drives ...'.
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    Even on a disk that File explorer cannot read at all & therefore reports 4.38GB free on a disk of 4.38GB capacity
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    ISOBuster can display its contents
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    It can also show the individual recordings [VOB files] list for most disks.
    - Sometimes it appears automatically.
    - Sometimes using Fully expand file system tree makes it appear.
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    - Sometimes using Fully expand file system tree then clicking the UDF icon next to System streams or the folder above that makes it appear.
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    - Sometimes using Fully expand file system tree then rescanning the disk makes it appear.
    - Sometimes it does not appear at all and I have to copy the entire VRO file across in one piece.
    But my disks are all DVD-RW disks last recorded on during 2011 or earlier so these variations are not a surprise - I am gradually transferring all these recordings to external HDDs for storage & playback.

    To transfer the recordings to your computer, select the VOB files of interest or select the whole VRO file then right-click, Extract.
    - If you see red Xs next to individual VOB files, don't waste your time trying to extract them.
    - I normally extract VOB files because they are individual programme recordings [or individual segments of programmes if you have edited the recording on your DVD recorder]. The name of the recorded programme often forms part of the VOB filename so that helps to keep track of what's going on.
    - I sometimes extract the whole VRO file then run the extracted VRO through VideoReDo's 'Quick stream fix' procedure so that faulty sectors causing red Xs get chopped out.
    - These files can be shown on the free trial version of ISOBuster but you have to pay for the full version to be able to do the extraction - it is blocked on the free trial version.

    During all this testing, I have managed to destroy one disk by pressing the DVD drive's eject button instead of using ISOBuster's Eject icon [now the blue symbol on the very right-hand side].
    - Using the DVD drive's eject button does not cause fatal problems every time, only sometimes.
    - Using ISOBuster's eject icon avoids the problem every time {it is the blue icon on the right-hand side}. It allows you to force eject the disk so avoiding Windows' attempts to 'finalise' the disk - Windows, unlike ISOBuster, does not understand VRO disks.
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    If you can see the VRO file or the individual VOB files {even though File explorer says the disk is empty} then you should also be able to transfer the recordings to your computer.
    - If the VRO & VOB entries appear then whatever your DVD recorder uses as its recording format is suitable for ISOBuster extraction.
    - If the VRO file entry appears but the list of individual VOB files does not then the recording format is suitable for ISOBuster extraction but VideoReDo or similar would be required to access the recordings.
    - If neither the VRO nor the VOB entries appear then I'd say that your DVD recorder's file system cannot be used with ISOBuster.
    - These files can be shown on the free trial version of ISOBuster but you have to pay for the full version to be able to do the extraction - it is blocked on the free trial version.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 25 May 2018 at 08:08.
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