First boot after monthly updates unresponsive

  1.    11 May 2018 #1

    First boot after monthly updates unresponsive

    Hey All.

    Wonder if anyone could suggest a way to analyze (to understand why this is like that) the following problem my computer has been having for few months now:

    After monthly updates, on first boot and on first boot only, after I login, Windows is unresponsive. If I do reset / power off or Alt-F4 -> enter on desktop (have to wait long time for this to actually happen) then next boot everything seems fine.

    Last time it happened, I managed to open Task Manager; it took a very long time to start. CPU utilization was showing 98-100% - and I couldn't get any more info than that. Sorting by CPU % or going in Details tab or Performance just hanged TM. I didn't have ‘show kernel times’ enabled at that time, so no way I could’ve seen if this is caused by system process anyways. Disk / Network / GPU / Memory didn't show anything unusual, only CPU utilization was high.

    I obviously can't make this happen at will. It's more or less monthly thing, which makes it difficult to analyze.

    So, here's the thing. I would like to find out why this is happening or in other words, come next Black Tuesday, I'd like to be prepared.


    (edit: sorry for grammar - tried obvious typos fist, but now feel to lazy to edit futher.)
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  2. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
       16 May 2018 #2

    Hi LightlySparklin. Welcome to the TenForums @LightlySparklin

    You didn't mention if you had been through the normal Maintenance activities and you really gave the forum no details on your device. (HDD / SDD, memory, processor)

    There are boots and then there are boots. Power on, if you have not customized, is not the same boot as restart. Restart gets you a fresh copy of windows, power down and up gets you Windows Fast Startup.

    Are the boot issues there when you restart, or power up or both?

    Which version and build of Windows 10 are you on, windows key + R, type winver, enter.

    Have you performed a Windows Disk Cleanup and if using an HDD a check of fragmentation?

    Have you run chkdsk /f on you storage drive? How many drives do you have in device?

    While a drastic step sometimes a clean install can resolve some evils. Do you have a lot of third party software or customized software?

    Before trying any diagnostics ensure you have your data backed up and boot media available just in case.

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  3.    14 Jun 2018 #3

    [QUOTE=Caledon Ken;1373112]Hi LightlySparklin. Welcome to the TenForums @LightlySparklin
    Hi there.
    Yeah, those things you're asking don't matter. Please read what I want in OP. Not to be an ass, but I don't want to fix without understanding, especially I don't want to do anything drastic like re-install fresh or not for minor inconvenience once a month. Also, I'm not without understanding how things work, so please cut the basics. Thanks.
    Oh, and I'm truly sorry - I completely forgot about this thread - my bad.
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  4. Caledon Ken's Avatar
    Posts : 11,154
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
       15 Jun 2018 #4

    Maybe info within this thread may help you analyse.

    Very slow boot on Win10 with SSD after creators upadte
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  5.    15 Jun 2018 #5

    Unfortunately no, it doesn't help. When this happens boot is as fast as usual - under 8 sec. Things get interesting only after I login (I've gpo to enforce Ctrl-Alt-Del) and it doesn't change if I let computer sit idle before I login - it has to be something to do with user process. Login in as different user (even one without profile) does not change anything. Nothing that explains this problem in event log either.
    I was thinking it may be some MS shovelware apps get update or re-installed, but do they really peg CPU this much? How do I find out?
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  6. Posts : 21
    Windows 10 64bit Professional
       15 Jun 2018 #6

    LightlySparklin said: View Post
    I was thinking it may be some MS shovelware apps get update or re-installed, but do they really peg CPU this much? How do I find out?
    1) I suggest you roll back the update:
    2) NEVER EVER install a freshly made update because M$crosoft treats you as a beta tester which means people install updates then they start complaining for this and that because updates are NOT 100% perfect ever.

    I had my my previous Windows 7 SP1 system with all auto updates turned off which means I'm the owner of my computer (not M$crosoft) so I decide when to update only when I'm sure it doesn't mess with my computer.
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  7.    15 Jun 2018 #7

    It's difficult to take what you wrote seriously for the reason that you spell Microsoft with $. It's not 1995 anymore, not even kool kids use it. I however will try... once

    1. Why?

    2. BS. You need to support this claim. In my case, I had not have even single hiccup with monthly updates since NT 4 SP6. I do read what updates do and pay attention to experience of others.

    Re your Windows 7 off topic... It is off topic.
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