Windows 10: What is going on with Windows 10 and privacy????

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  1.    08 May 2018 #31

    Marko1401 said: View Post
    You are arguing pointlessly and missing the big picture.
    If I were to insure you in Canada, I'd do a background check for you before giving you a quote as well.

    If I were to hand you a loan on top of your provided loan collateral, if you have had a history of bad credit, I'd increase the loan interest, because its a bigger risk for me.

    That's not personal data. That's business information.

    I've worked for 2 major Insurance companies : Allianz and Grawe.
    Maybe you would but they didn't.
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  2. Kari's Avatar
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       08 May 2018 #32

    I think that the most distinguished difference between spying and telemetry is totally forgotten in this discussion.

    Spying your PC usage and your activities would mean someone wanting to know all about you and in worst case, use that information to either harm you or gain profits.

    Windows telemetry is not doing that. Microsoft really is not interested in your person; they do not even want to know who you are. Instead, telemetry data is used to offer you better and more accurate search results, simply to make your Windows user experience more targeted, to do and show what your earlier behaviour shows you are interested in.

    Allowing telemetry data to be collected, Windows is able to adjust it to your needs. Personally I could not even think disabling telemetry; I like the fact that the more I use Windows, the better it learns to know me and my habits. Being a keen Cortana user, I must say I really like how day by day Cortana is helping me by showing more and more relevant content when I search something, just to mention one example.

    Your privacy is in no way threatened by letting Windows to collect telemetry data. The collected data is not used to spy on you, it is not sold to third parties, it is not even used to identify you in order to keep records of you.

    A weird and somehow sadly funny thing is that most of those users complaining about Windows telemetry willingly let Google do even more on their Android phones, or Apple do the same on their iPads and iPhones. To fully utilize those devices you need a Google or Apple ID.

    A piece of advice to all you geeks going extra miles to prevent Windows telemetry: Stop using Windows. Get an iMac, iPad or Android device, or replace Windows on your computers with a Linux distro of your choice. My point: throw away your tinfoil hat and get a baseball cap instead.

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 08 May 2018 at 07:48. Reason: Fixed the worst typos
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  3.    08 May 2018 #33

    Kari, the telemetry has value to Microsoft, and if it helps them improve Windows, fine. But it's really a smokescreen for collecting lots more.

    The barn door is open. Your data is being seized. You are being watched.
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  4. Kari's Avatar
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       08 May 2018 #34

    margrave55 said: View Post
    The barn door is open. Your data is being seized. You are being watched.
    Complete BS!

    Tip   Tip
    If you are concerned about Microsoft collecting telemetry data to be able to personalize your Windows user experience, here's the steps required to make it completely impossible. List is quite short and easy to understand:

    1.) Never connect to Internet

    -- OR --

    2.) Use Mac instead (of course, then you would need to disable Internet connection to disable Apple for "spying on you")

    Kari
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  5.    08 May 2018 #35

    Marko1401 said: View Post
    Wait until you see ads all over the place, WHILE you are watching your next TV show on Netflix or opening a random file you are working on for your education purposes.

    Then you'll remember this.
    That's where this is going.
    What has that got to do with my obvious joke reply?
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  6. slicendice's Avatar
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       08 May 2018 #36

    Hahhah!

    I have enabled ALL telemetry on ALL my Windows devices. I have even Enabled ALL telemetry for ALL Microsoft applications I use on my Android devices.

    I have done all this only because I know what the data is used for and how. Only thing the data does on MS servers, is to improve MY Windows/Microsoft experience and helps Microsoft fix possible bugs or performance issues my devices might have. It's in every Windows users best interest to let Microsoft collect as much telemetry as possible so they can keep improving their products.
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  7.    08 May 2018 #37

    margrave55 said: View Post
    Kari, the telemetry has value to Microsoft, and if it helps them improve Windows, fine. But it's really a smokescreen for collecting lots more.

    The barn door is open. Your data is being seized. You are being watched.

    Yep....
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  8.    08 May 2018 #38

    Kari said: View Post
    Complete BS!

    Tip   Tip
    If you are concerned about Microsoft collecting telemetry data to be able to personalize your Windows user experience, here's the steps required to make it completely impossible. List is quite short and easy to understand:

    1.) Never connect to Internet

    -- OR --

    2.) Use Mac instead (of course, then you would need to disable Internet connection to disable Apple for "spying on you")

    Kari

    How we quickly forget the FB hearings.......
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  9. TairikuOkami's Avatar
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       08 May 2018 #39

    Masterchiefxx17 said: View Post
    Welcome to the new age of computers. Every company you use will track you along the way and identify how you do something. There are even websites that track your behavior on the internet.
    Indeed, this is the future, but technology is not the problem, people are.
    MS, unlike other companies, at least tries to keep privacy reasonable.
    Check out this movie about, what is coming, it is cool, but a bit scary.

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  10. Kari's Avatar
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       08 May 2018 #40

    Plankton said: View Post
    How we quickly forget the FB hearings.......
    How we ignorantly compare Facebook to Microsoft, on purpose "forgetting" to mention how different these companies are and how different reasons they have to collect any data...

    Twisting and misusing the details just to make them support invalid facts is in my books about the same as lying.

    Anyway, one good example of how telemetry is used to make our Windows usage better and safer is how Microsoft used and will use it to fight malware. Our fellow member @EdTittel wrote about that on Search Enterprise Desktop some time ago: MS Foils Coin Mining Compelling Telemetry Case - Windows Enterprise Desktop

    Kari
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