Windows 10: win 10 - tech says dont yet

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  1.    31 Jul 2015 #11

    Indeed you will.
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  2.    31 Jul 2015 #12

    elbmek said: View Post
    I would have thought in a multi machine environment that all the stations would have been connected directly to a server in house, would that not save money??? Instead of 200 pc's, just a keyboard and monitor and link.
    There is an option within Windows Update that will allow the computers on your local network to share updates with other computers on your LAN and not all be trying to hit the MS servers.
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  3. Posts : 261
    Windows 10 & Windows 10 Insider Program, Linux Mint 18, Zorin, elementary OS
       31 Jul 2015 #13

    BillyBob said: View Post
    If you don't know much about computers fair enough, but I think you'll find most people will just go ahead anyway, nothing like living on the edge.
    Been computing for quite a few years and like living on the "edge". The "edge" is not too dangerous when you have at your disposal: Acronis, Macrium, Easeus ToDo, Aomei, Terrabyte Unlimited, Paragon, etc. Take your pick and DO BACKUP!

    Rich
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  4.    31 Jul 2015 #14

    Hi there

    most of these "Support" companies are usually employing staff on minimum wages etc (I believe it's all called Cost Cutting and squeezing maximum profit wherever possible).

    Honestly for any computer problems you will find MUCH BETTER sources of information and help on these forums. Not only that there are loads of really experienced people here who are quite willing to attempt to solve problems and post back quite quickly --far far better than waiting for hours on a miserable phone line only to be answered by someone with fairly limited knowledge and speaking an incomprehensible version of English from a call centre on the other side of the Planet.

    There literally for 99.999% of people NO REASON NOT to upgrade (i.e Upgrade now -- usually no problems).

    Before upgrading though take a backup image of your OS so you can restore again if W10 doesn't work or you don't like it.

    If you have problems on making a backup - post again - people will sort you out.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 167
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       31 Jul 2015 #15

    Because computer issues are particular to a system, no one can tell you what the ideal course of action is.

    The tech has an opinion that is similar to mine. There is no rush to get Windows 10. Everything a person uses their OS for can be done already on whatever OS they're using. There are 2 major service patches coming for Windows 10 - one in August, and then another in October. Before these two patches are released, people will be encountering the brunt of Windows 10 errors.

    If you're a person who expects, or desires to run an OS knowing that there will be no issues, then waiting sounds like a good idea.

    For me, since I guess Windows 7, an OS should be stable by definition, and a stable OS should not be put aside for one that's still getting its issues ironed out. My perspective is that even though Microsoft have made the official release of Windows 10 on July 29th, that the real presentation of the OS will not be until October, when the second service patch (SR2) releases.

    There's more than just bug fixes that will come in the time between now and October. New features that have already been announced for Windows 10 will release in SR1 and SR2. Those new features may bring new bugs of their own. ~3 months of mass public use will also give Microsoft a lot of feedback on hidden issues, and things that don't work as easily as they can, and a lot of minor adjustments might be made between now and October.

    After using the Preview build for a month, I feel like Windows 10 is still in a late beta stage, and that these next 2 - 3 months will be the time it needs to be a confidently stable OS.

    I agree with your tech, that waiting is a good philosophy in the case of Windows 10. It isn't an ambiguous suggestion - we know what's going on with Windows 10 in the next few months, and we know that there will be big stability and feature differences between now and SR2's release.

    As the foundation truly isn't all there yet, I feel that Windows 10 really starts with SR2, and that the current release is for marketing, and accounting purposes.
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    latest windows insider home build
       31 Jul 2015 #16

    you obviously haven't been following the statements from Microsoft; there isnt going to be a "SR1 or a SR2 or a SR4...windows is now a service,with ongoing updates, fixes, and modifications, and these will be made on a regular basis, with no "service packs" being released...when something is discovered to be an issue, a fix goes out immediately, not held back for a service pack.
    and you couldn't be more wrong with your observation about this version not being "Stable"..I have beta tested for Microsoft for over 20 years, starting with win 95, and this is BY FAR, the most tested, most stable "official" version for windows EVER, so if you or anyone else has major issues after installing this, its either operator error, or faulty hardware, or poor 3rd party hardware/software/drivers. To say anything else is just inaccurate..

    Five million people were in the insider program, testing and reporting issues so, if you think that's not an incredibly large, reliable, testing base, I dont know what is!
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  7.    31 Jul 2015 #17

    wase4711 said: View Post
    you obviously haven't been following the statements from Microsoft; there isnt going to be a "SR1 or a SR2 or a SR4...and these will be made on a regular basis, with no "service packs" being released..
    Read the first few sentences in the linked thread. Notice where it says
    The first bigger collection of fixes will come with what Microsoft calls Service Release 1 (SR1). Sources familiar
    ...
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  8. Posts : 167
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       31 Jul 2015 #18

    wase4711 said: View Post
    you obviously haven't been following the statements from Microsoft; there isnt going to be a "SR1 or a SR2 or a SR4...windows is now a service,with ongoing updates, fixes, and modifications, and these will be made on a regular basis, with no "service packs" being released...when something is discovered to be an issue, a fix goes out immediately, not held back for a service pack.
    Windows 10 'Service Release 1' expected to roll out next month

    and you couldn't be more wrong with your observation about this version not being "Stable"..I have beta tested for Microsoft for over 20 years, starting with win 95, and this is BY FAR, the most tested, most stable "official" version for windows EVER
    Win 10's release being the most stable official release doesn't mean it is as stable as other Windows OS' are at this moment. If you don't keep your comments contextual, then they don't convey any truthful meaning.

    so if you or anyone else has major issues after installing this, its either operator error, or faulty hardware, or poor 3rd party hardware/software/drivers. To say anything else is just inaccurate..
    Please don't be silly. Someone with over 20 years of in-depth computer experience knows that the above statement is flawed on multiple levels.

    Five million people were in the insider program, testing and reporting issues so, if you think that's not an incredibly large, reliable, testing base, I dont know what is!
    Including me, so I know that there are still many bugs.
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  9.    31 Jul 2015 #19

    Hey, how am I supposed to accept or reject advice when you are all disagreeing on sp 1 or sp 2 and everything in between? As was stated, every pc is different. I would image the more modern machines will take this upgrade easier than older ones. I am not so sure 5m people testing a major upgrade is all that many when you think the population of my country alone is around the 77m mark.

    I seek advice, not arguments, please?
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  10. Posts : 167
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       31 Jul 2015 #20

    elbmek said: View Post
    Hey, how am I supposed to accept or reject advice when you are all disagreeing on sp 1 or sp 2 and everything in between? As was stated, every pc is different. I would image the more modern machines will take this upgrade easier than older ones. I am not so sure 5m people testing a major upgrade is all that many when you think the population of my country alone is around the 77m mark.

    I seek advice, not arguments, please?
    It sounds like your concern is being able to use your PC comfortably, and not anything that is dependent upon some particular Windows 10 feature. Upgrading will involve an uncertain element - you could have upgrade issues, usability issues, or driver / app incompatibility issues. Those things will be less prevalent after a few months of mainstream public use and patches.

    You won't miss anything by waiting a few months, and your first engagement with the OS will be all the smoother for it. I recommend waiting. Then you know you have a good and solid OS now, and that you'll have a pretty solid OS in a few months.

    Also, look at some review videos, and see whether the visual design is something that you like or not.
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