One sub folder in Hive HKEY_CURRENT_USER wont save modify since update

  1.    02 Feb 2018 #1

    One sub folder in Hive HKEY_CURRENT_USER wont save modify since update

    Hey All - Any sage advice your have, I'll take it. I've been an avid Win 8.1 user for years, refusing to upgrade just because of stories I had heard. Well OK, also because I just liked 8.1. Certainly not because I don't like change, NOPE! Fine, I admit I don't like emoji's, I like ; ) I use classic shell and I desperately want the "right click" "select all"back in Word anyway, you get the point. But last week I decided to get on with it and try it. I bought Win 10 over a year ago and it's been on the shelf glaring down at me ever since. As a result I have an older version of Win 10 Home, which resulted in 6 hours of updating and upgrading. I know this issue may seem like a itty bitty small thing, but it drives me batty!

    My ROG G751 defaults with the numloc OFF. I prefer to have the default ON. I have learned through having to redo it a bazillion times (updating and upgrading) now exactly what to change for it to work and believe me it took quite some time to even arrive at this solution as there are a ton of "working solutions" for this small change but this is the only the way that worked for this laptop. It worked in 8.1 but I have not been able to modify it and make it work since Win 10 Home or Pro.

    In regedit I modify HKEY_CURRENT_USER under Control Panel, Keyboard, InitialKeyboardIndicators from it's current value of 2147483648 to a 2. I make this same change in HKEY__USERS, DEFAULT also under Control Panel, Keyboard, InitialKeyboardIndicators . I then change the next 4 under DEFAULT ( S-1-*) in the same manner. Reboot, come back it worked for my PIN but once at the desktop the numloc was no longer the default. So I went back into regedit and noticed that the change I had made didn't save in HKEY_CURRENT_USER but had saved in the others. So I made the modifications again. Reboot and same thing, it had saved all but the first one in HKEY_CURRENT_USER.
    So, I went back into regedit and instead of modifying the number string with a 2, I changed the last 2 numbers of the string (2147483648) to 50. I know it shouldn't matter but thought I'd try. Reboot and the same. Had saved all but the 1st one under HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

    I checked the permissions and they looked right I'm pretty sure.

    Any thoughts?
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  2.    02 Feb 2018 #2

    After making the registry settings disable the Fast Startup feature, also known as Hybrid Boot, overrides this setting and Windows will continue to boot with Num Lock off.

    Step Two: Use This Trick (or Disable Fast Startup)

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  3.    03 Feb 2018 #3

    Thank you very much. Learn something new everyday and I hadn't known this. I'll go check it out now and hopefully I can come and mark this solved!



    OK, I'm back. Disabled fast boot restarted made the modification. Saved and restarted. Came back the modification was gone. So I logged off and rebooted to ensure I had saved BIOS settings. Indeed fast boot is off and it still didn't make the modification. There must be something else that's overriding the modifications . It really makes no sense that 4 keys could be modified and saved and 1 is not. Thanks for the try though.

    If you think of something else I'm game.

    Regards, Jen
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  4.    03 Feb 2018 #4

    Somewhere online I found this Autohotkey script. It does the trick:
    ; NumLock Enforcer - Monitors the Num Lock key ... turns it back on after someone turns it off
    appname=NumLock Enforcer
    SetTimer, EnforceNumLock, 500
      NumLockStatus := GetKeyState("Numlock", "T")
       IfEqual, NumLockStatus, 0
         SetNumLockState, On
         ;TrayTip,%appname%,NumLock Status = On,,1  ; UNCOMMENT THIS LINE IF YOU WANT SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK
    ; Win+p pauses the script,just in case you need the NumLock.
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  5.    03 Feb 2018 #5

    [HP] Enabling NUM Lock Keyboard in Win 10

    First time ever that NUM Lock works in Win Ten. Thanks for opening this thread.

    The given link is not clear regarding Regedit. Searching registry with the following works:


    InitialKeyboardIndicators/F3/Force search

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\control Panel\Keyboard/InitialKeyboardIndicators/2

    The value was already at 2.

    HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel'Keyboard/InitialKeyboardIndicators/2

    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Keyboard/InitialKeyboardIndicators /2

    -Exit and Shut down

    -Boot to login screen and enable the NUM Lock key (check if working) and shut down without entering password.

    No need to disable fast startup. Works in 16299 and 17083.

    17083.1000 shows this:

    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Keyboard

    All the best,

    Edit: F10/BIOS/Advanced/Device options/NUM Lock State at Power-On/On
    Last edited by MikeMecanic; 03 Feb 2018 at 21:17.
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  6.    04 Feb 2018 #6

    Machine is dual boot, no side effect on both sides. NUM Lock keyboard is permanently enable at the login screen.

    There must be something you do wrong or a value(s) that was changed that prevents the registry from memorizing* the new value.
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