Windows 10: Sorting Explorer columns by multiple criteria

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  1.    22 Jan 2018 #1

    Sorting Explorer columns by multiple criteria


    Hi,

    I used to sort files in the w10 explorer using detailed view by date and then, by left clicking on name, the directories by name.

    For some reason, this does not work any more.

    Does anyone have an idea how I can do this again, as it worked fine until recently.

    Cheers
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  2.    22 Jan 2018 #2

    @LaszloV welcome to tenforums! :)

    I'm not sure I understand what you're not able to do, could you elaborate?

    In Details view you can Sort by Date, left clicking on the Name merely toggles the sort order from A-Z ascending or descending.
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  3.    22 Jan 2018 #3

    I tried various permutations of sorting by name and date and I actually can't get the same ordering as the OP. I also don't see any difference in behavior between 1709 and 1703 (the only other ISO I happened to have) so if there was a change then it wasn't recent.

    Can you describe the exact sequence you're seeing the problem with?

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       23 Jan 2018 #4

    I also haven't seen the capability of multiple sort criteria in many versions of Windows Explorer or the later [in Win8/8.1/10] File Explorer. Each column visible can be sorted in ascending or descending order, clicking a different column changes the view strictly to that arrangement. Generally the columns are sorted alphabetically with Folders first. Compressed/zip files are usually between Folders and files except in Type where they will be at either end of the list.
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  5.    23 Jan 2018 #5

    I think you may want to press shift. This is sorted by date and default A --> Z order within that.

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    and then shift left click on Name to sort backwards by name Z --> A (within original sort by date - check 22-Jul-2017 17:16).

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    If that doesn't work you could select a date range and then sort within that perhaps

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  6.    23 Jan 2018 #6

    Hi,

    Thanks for the replies.

    I will have to be more precise then.
    In my screenshot you can see that files are sorted by date. Fine.
    But the directories are not sorted alphabetically. Not fine.

    What I was able to do was left-click on "date" and the column date would be sorted up or down depending on how many times I clicked on the date heading. Great.

    Once the date was sorted the way I wanted, I was then able to ADDITIONALLY press SHIFT+left-click on "Name", to get directories to the top and sorted alphabetically.

    The result was a detailed view of the sub-directories on top, sorted alphabetically and ALSO the files sorted by date.

    And this I managed to get as the default everywhere and consistent. Now the listings are all over the show and I can't work with this explorer any more because I need to spend time looking for files and, what is worse, to double check and scroll every time I want to open or save something from within a programme. Highly annoying.

    That's why any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks
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  7.    23 Jan 2018 #7

    Interesting, I didn't know about the SHIFT-click. However, in this scenario I believe the original screenshot is correct behavior. I even tried this on Win7 and it works the same way.

    When you first click on Date, you sort everything by date down to seconds (or maybe smaller). Then when you SHIFT-click on Name, you add a secondary sort. That means the sort by name only factors in when the timestamps are exactly the same.

    So like in the OP, I sort by Date descending. I deliberately modified the seconds in the folder timestamps for illustration.
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    Then SHIFT-click on Name. Folders move to the top for some reason. Note that HP and Maxthon3Cache have the exact same modify time - so they are sorted by Name ascending.

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    I SHIFT-click on Name again and now HP and Maxthon3Cache are sorted by Name descending.
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  8.    28 Jan 2018 #8

    So there is no solution to the problem?

    Any suggestions? This is really hampering my work with Explorer and I have no idea why someone would change it.
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  9.    28 Jan 2018 #9

    As far as I remember, I don't think this has ever worked this way even as far back as Win 3. If you can actually get this to work, it would be very interesting to know how.
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  10.    28 Jan 2018 #10

    LaszloV said: View Post
    So there is no solution to the problem?

    Any suggestions? This is really hampering my work with Explorer and I have no idea why someone would change it.
    Do you have another example of folders/files where you expect different behavior than what Windows is currently doing? I tried early versions of Win 10 as well as Win 7 and the behavior is exactly the same as it is today.
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