Windows 10: Not indexing (searching) truecrypt volume

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  1.    17 Jan 2018 #1

    Not indexing (searching) truecrypt volume


    I can't get windows 10 to search mounted truecrypt volumes, ie, type part of the file name into the "search windows" box and it doesn't bring up a "best match", I just get "no results found".
    I have added the volumes to indexing locations in the indexing options (eg local disk W) and it appears to be indexing it. They are listed in the "included locations" and after a few minutes indexed items goes up from 3,000 to 10,000 but the search box doesn't find any of the files.
    I have tried restarting the services
    net stop wmpnetworksvc
    net stop WSearch
    net start Wsearch
    net start wmpnetworksvc
    And also "rebuild index" but it still doesn't function.

    Any suggestions?
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  2.    18 Jan 2018 #2

    the search box doesn't find any of the files.
    Hi, which search box? Cortana's or file explorer's?

    Could you give an example of your search string and the file name you're hoping to find?

    Note: never tried indexing a mounted volume, so I've no idea if there's a specific problem with that. Maybe someone else has tried this.
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  3.    18 Jan 2018 #3

    dalchina said: View Post
    Hi, which search box? Cortana's or file explorer's?

    .
    The search box in the bottom left corner of the desktop, hover over it and you get a "search windows" label.

    An example of the problem. Say I have some photos called DSG001.JPG, DSG002.JPG.... etc, if they are located in "my documents" or any other indexed location on the C: drive I can type "DSG" into the search box and it will list them under "best match". If they are located on a mounted truecrypt volume, in this example drive W: they will not be found, even though the indexing options has local drive W: as an indexed location.
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  4.    18 Jan 2018 #4

    Oddly I find the drive letter created by Truecrypt does not appear in the list of drives shown in Indexing Options, so I can't add it to be indexed, so you're doing better in that respect.

    I'd suggest you experiment with file explorer: browse to your mounted Truecrypt drive, and see if you can then find a file instantly (i.e. indexed).
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  5.    18 Jan 2018 #5

    dalchina said: View Post
    Oddly I find the drive letter created by Truecrypt does not appear in the list of drives shown in Indexing Options, so I can't add it to be indexed, so you're doing better in that respect.
    The drive letter wont show unless it was already mounted when the indexing service was started. Restarting the windows search service, either in services or using the command lines (as admin) in my original post, should make them show in the indexing options.

    dalchina said: View Post
    I'd suggest you experiment with file explorer: browse to your mounted Truecrypt drive, and see if you can then find a file instantly (i.e. indexed).
    Searching in explorer does work but very slow, it takes several minutes if the file is in a sub-directory, it appears to be searching from scratch without using any kind of index.
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  6.    18 Jan 2018 #6

    I can only agree- I've got a mounted volume supposedly indexed now (number of items increased once volume added in Indexing Options) - but no sign it's indexed when searching.

    If you use a 3rd party tool such as
    Locate32 (which I've just tried)
    and presumably Ultrasearch, Everything by void tools

    - no problem- it just works.
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  7.    18 Jan 2018 #7

    dalchina said: View Post
    and presumably Ultrasearch, Everything by void tools

    .
    Thanks, that has help me identify the problem. Ultrasearch looked great but it states that it only works of NTFS file systems and my Truecrypt volumes are FAT32. I just tried creating a NTFS Truecrypt volume and added some files, restarted the indexing, added the drive to the included locations and the windows search does find it.
    I guess as a sort of fix I can use NTFS instead of FAT32 but that doesn't explain why it appears to index the FAT32 files (i.e. the number of index items goes up) but is unable to find them.
    So the question now is, why doesn't windows search work correctly on FAT32 file systems and how do I fix it.
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  8.    18 Jan 2018 #8

    Agreed.. seems odd. I've done a search on indexing truecrypt volumes and found some old historical problems with not indexing changes- but that indicates indexing was working. Then.

    Locate32 works with FAT32 too..

    An alternative for Everything. It find files fast even fat32 drives and it still beats the default search engine. You can even use it for remote shared folders on your network. Unlike Everything who does things on the fly, locate32 must update its database of your files (It can be scheduled to be done automatically) but unless you constantly move your files around, it's not much of an issue. Also as i have said it can handle fat32 drives so It handles files just as quick as Everything but does not suffer from its limitation that it only works for ntfs.
    Interesting that you've found Windows search working with NTFS Truecrypt.. mine didn't seem to - My Truecrypt container is NTFS. I'm going to try indexing the whole of it - I forgot that if you only index a folder, Windows search doesn't prioritise the indexed folder but searches slowly through the rest first if explorer is open further up in the hierarchy.

    - yes, works on NTFS Truecrypt as you say.
    Last edited by dalchina; 18 Jan 2018 at 12:21.
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  9.    18 Jan 2018 #9

    Note that indexing a FAT32 USB drive works ok.
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  10.    18 Jan 2018 #10

    dalchina said: View Post
    Note that indexing a FAT32 USB drive works ok.
    So now I am really confused. If a FAT32 USB works ok and a Truecrypt NTFS works ok, why doesn't a Truecrypt FAT32?
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