New to windows 10

jimbo45 said:

W10 works just fine and doesn't have as many annoyances as Windows 7 which always seems to be asking for updates!!.

How do you cope with W10, if one or two updates a month for W7 is too many?
There are more updates than that every month for my W10 installs (Home, Pro VM).

How do you survive the 6 month W10 upgrades?

The 1709 upgrade won't install on either of my W10 installs (Home, Pro VM).

The W10 Home laptop has to remain disconnected from the network because it can't successfully install 1709 and there's no way to stop it from trying.

The 1703 upgrade broke the graphics driver in my W10 Pro VM.
The 1709 upgrade won't install in it.

Last Saturday, I spent ~11 hours trying to install it.
I had to download >500MB of updates before I could even start on 1709.
Windows Update tried 6 times, downloaded ~10GB of garbage and failed every time (no BSODs and it gave an error code once).

Windows Update Troubleshooter couldn't fix the problem.
After running the fixes (twice) 1709 still wouldn't install.
I didn't run the "clean and re-download" fix the 2nd time, as I wanted to use my PC for something other than updating W10.

@Callender has suggested another potential fix I can try, but it will have to wait until I can work up enough enthusiasm to attempt it.

I suspect that the only way to fix this mess is to download a new ISO and perform clean installs.

Bree said:

Like I said, never been a problem for me these past 2+ years since launch, but then for customization I stick to those changes allowed for in the design of Win10. As Tony K says, there's a lot you can do to change the look and feel without needing 3rd-party help.

Until early last year I only experienced a few issues with W10.

After that, the W10 Home laptop needed two attempts to install any updates, except Defender (i.e. on the first attempt all updates always fail to install).

The W10 Home laptop has a 3rd party browser and media player installed, everything else is MS default (e.g. no 3rd party AV).
The W10 Pro VM has more software installed, but no 3rd party AV.

The unstoppable telemetry that is supposed to be making W10 better is actually making it worse.

If someone removed Windows Update W10 would be reasonably nice.
My W10 installs run smoothly, when they're not being broken/disrupted by updates.

monster212 said:

Thank you for the info, i must say i am enjoying windows 10 fast ans smooth. just hate the updating.

Glad to see you have it installed. Which OS did you come from?

Personally I leave all drives in the machine and direct the install with the custom choice, unless there's a known issue with a particular drive. May take a little longer, but the OS then knows what it has to manage so far as peripherals.

monster212 said:

...i am sure some day 7 will end up like xp...

January 14, 2020
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