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  1.    16 Jan 2018 #21

    If you ever do a clean install be sure to disconnect all drives except for you boot drive before you install. After install reconnect your data drives.
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  2. Posts : 1,704
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.3 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home 1703 (64 bit), W10 Pro 1703 (64 bit) VM
       16 Jan 2018 #22

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    W10 works just fine and doesn't have as many annoyances as Windows 7 which always seems to be asking for updates!!.
    How do you cope with W10, if one or two updates a month for W7 is too many?
    There are more updates than that every month for my W10 installs (Home, Pro VM).

    How do you survive the 6 month W10 upgrades?

    The 1709 upgrade won't install on either of my W10 installs (Home, Pro VM).

    The W10 Home laptop has to remain disconnected from the network because it can't successfully install 1709 and there's no way to stop it from trying.

    The 1703 upgrade broke the graphics driver in my W10 Pro VM.
    The 1709 upgrade won't install in it.

    Last Saturday, I spent ~11 hours trying to install it.
    I had to download >500MB of updates before I could even start on 1709.
    Windows Update tried 6 times, downloaded ~10GB of garbage and failed every time (no BSODs and it gave an error code once).

    Windows Update Troubleshooter couldn't fix the problem.
    After running the fixes (twice) 1709 still wouldn't install.
    I didn't run the "clean and re-download" fix the 2nd time, as I wanted to use my PC for something other than updating W10.

    @Callender has suggested another potential fix I can try, but it will have to wait until I can work up enough enthusiasm to attempt it.

    I suspect that the only way to fix this mess is to download a new ISO and perform clean installs.

    Bree said: View Post
    Like I said, never been a problem for me these past 2+ years since launch, but then for customization I stick to those changes allowed for in the design of Win10. As Tony K says, there's a lot you can do to change the look and feel without needing 3rd-party help.
    Until early last year I only experienced a few issues with W10.

    After that, the W10 Home laptop needed two attempts to install any updates, except Defender (i.e. on the first attempt all updates always fail to install).

    The W10 Home laptop has a 3rd party browser and media player installed, everything else is MS default (e.g. no 3rd party AV).
    The W10 Pro VM has more software installed, but no 3rd party AV.

    The unstoppable telemetry that is supposed to be making W10 better is actually making it worse.

    If someone removed Windows Update W10 would be reasonably nice.
    My W10 installs run smoothly, when they're not being broken/disrupted by updates.
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  3. Posts : 526
    Windows 10 Home 32-bit
       18 Jan 2018 #23

    Had trouble with 1709 also.

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    Got it installed eventually via Update method in this link:

    Download Windows 10

    However the upgrade resulted in a "COM Surrogate Stopped Working" error when start menu is clicked.

    Looks like it is time for a wipe and clean install.
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  4. Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Home 64bit
    Thread Starter
       18 Jan 2018 #24

    bfunke said: View Post
    If you ever do a clean install be sure to disconnect all drives except for you boot drive before you install. After install reconnect your data drives.

    why is that????

    also the new update has failed on my like 6 times.. finally got it to update..i like windows 10 but i hope updates are not this pain in the but all the time...
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  5. Posts : 4,627
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, WinXP Home Premium, Linux Mint
       18 Jan 2018 #25

    monster212 said: View Post
    why is that????

    also the new update has failed on my like 6 times.. finally got it to update..i like windows 10 but i hope updates are not this pain in the but all the time...
    It just assures one is reinstalling on the desired drive or partition. Sometimes Windows likes to take the one with the most room and that can lead to problems. Or in other words, remove as many variables as possible.

    Win10 has been described as a service by writers, will have changes more frequently that Win7 and earlier with their Service Packs.
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  6. Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Home 64bit
    Thread Starter
       18 Jan 2018 #26

    Berton said: View Post
    It just assures one is reinstalling on the desired drive or partition. Sometimes Windows likes to take the one with the most room and that can lead to problems. Or in other words, remove as many variables as possible.
    Win10 has been described as a service by writers, will have changes more frequently that Win7 and earlier with their Service Packs.
    Thank you for the info, i must say i am enjoying windows 10 fast ans smooth. just hate the updating.
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    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       18 Jan 2018 #27

    monster212 said: View Post
    Thank you for the info, i must say i am enjoying windows 10 fast ans smooth. just hate the updating.
    Glad to see you have it installed. Which OS did you come from?

    Personally I leave all drives in the machine and direct the install with the custom choice, unless there's a known issue with a particular drive. May take a little longer, but the OS then knows what it has to manage so far as peripherals.
    Last edited by Tony K; 18 Jan 2018 at 19:55.
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  • Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Home 64bit
    Thread Starter
       18 Jan 2018 #28

    Tony K said: View Post
    Glad to see you have it installed. Which OS did you come from?

    Personally I leave all drives in the machine and direct the install with the custom choice, unless there's a known issue with a particular drive. May take a little a little longer, but the OS then knows what it has to manage so far as peripherals.
    my new laptop came pre-installed with windows ten.. and cant go to windows 7 on the new one so for me ten is all new and learning it, plus guess now is a good time as in due time everyone will have to be on windows 10.. as i am sure some day 7 will end up like xp...
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    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       18 Jan 2018 #29

    monster212 said: View Post
    ...i am sure some day 7 will end up like xp...
    January 14, 2020
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...cle-fact-sheet
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  • Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Home 64bit
    Thread Starter
       18 Jan 2018 #30

    thank you for the info Bree
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