Windows 10: Windows 10 won't boot - fresh install

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  1. Posts : 20,131
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       11 Jan 2018 #81

    Each of the drives has a manufacturer and on the computer there are 3 different companies.
    Is it possible to identify the drive manufacturer to the drive letter?

    Samsung SSD 850 PRO 1TB
    Seagate Backup+ Hub BK
    WDC WD10EALX-759BA1

    This is what is seen when using chkdsk /x /f /r as compared to chkdsk /scan


    C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk /x /f /r
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    Cannot lock current drive.


    Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
    process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
    checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N)

    type: Y
    reboot
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  2.    11 Jan 2018 #82

    The Samsung SSD is my C: drive

    The WDC is my D: drive (data)

    The Seagate is my F: drive (external backup)

    Not sure about the bit about running chkdsk when the PC restarts. how did you get that?

    Thanks
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  3. Posts : 20,131
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       11 Jan 2018 #83

    When the chkdsk command is used there are multiple switch commands/ switch options:
    scan
    spotfix
    f
    r
    x
    etc.

    Some of the command when ran properly will require a reboot. Others can be run without a reboot.
    To get the best scan it requires locking the drive and a reboot to run the chkdsk on the next boot when the computer is not in use.

    In an early post Tony K had commented about using UEFI instead of Legacy.
    The UEFI provides faster boot times and better security.
    When using Legacy BIOS the drive is MBR.
    When using UEFI BIOS the drive is GPT.

    With the information that you posted on the drive letters:

    Please verify the size and the drive:.......................size...............free
    Samsung SSD 850 PRO 1TB > MBR >............ C: 953.33 ........761.09 \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    Seagate Backup+ Hub BK > ...GPT >............. F: 5588.9 ........3286.99 \Device\HarddiskVolume5
    WDC WD10EALX-759BA1 > ...MBR> ..............D: 931.49 ........228.26 \Device\HarddiskVolume3

    Please open disk managerment > widen the status and volume columns so that the contents of the rows are in full view and nothing is cutoff > post an image into the thread
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  4.    11 Jan 2018 #84

    To eliminate the D: drive as a source of error, would it help if I unplugged it and see if the machine is OK when I restart? If I get the same issue, then it would imply it's nothing to do with the D: drive.

    As for UEFI, we tried that and it caused all sorts of problems. I was advised to switch back to the defaults (Legacy) and reinstall.

    However, I'm out of my depth here (trying hard to concentrate through flu!), so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    Thanks
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  5. Posts : 20,131
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       11 Jan 2018 #85

    If you have the time the best for long term is the following:
    1) Remove or disconnect all drives except 1 drive
    2) Change the BIOS to UEFI
    3) Perform another clean install windows 10 and only install computer manufacturer drivers (don't install applications, files, images etc.
    4) Check the hardware after the clean install (CPU, GPU, RAM, Drive, etc.)
    5) Once hardware problems are ruled in / ruled out then restore image.
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  6. Posts : 37,567
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       11 Jan 2018 #86

    Yossu said: View Post
    As for UEFI, we tried that and it caused all sorts of problems. I was advised to switch back to the defaults (Legacy) and reinstall.
    Uh oh! I may be in deep doodoo here. I assumed that choosing BIOS defaults as I instructed you to do would've placed it in UEFI mode. That is not true or is default legacy MBR scheme?

    Windows 10 won't boot - fresh install - Page 2 - Windows 10 Forums
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  7.    11 Jan 2018 #87

    Tony K said: View Post
    Uh oh! I may be in deep doodoo here. I assumed that choosing BIOS defaults as I instructed you to do would've placed it in UEFI mode. That is not true or is default legacy MBR scheme?

    Windows 10 won't boot - fresh install - Page 2 - Windows 10 Forums
    Don't know. If you look at the picture I posted earlier, you'll see it only offers Legacy (which it was set to) and UEFI. We tried setting it to EFI, and it caused problems.
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  8.    11 Jan 2018 #88

    zbook said: View Post
    If you have the time the best for long term is the following:
    1) Remove or disconnect all drives except 1 drive
    2) Change the BIOS to UEFI
    3) Perform another clean install windows 10 and only install computer manufacturer drivers (don't install applications, files, images etc.
    4) Check the hardware after the clean install (CPU, GPU, RAM, Drive, etc.)
    5) Once hardware problems are ruled in / ruled out then restore image.
    That's pretty much what I did the reinstall before last. Was a disaster!
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  9.    11 Jan 2018 #89

    By the way, please could you confirm that I was using the memory checker correctly. I just booted from the USB and let it run. This is what it looked like after a few hours...

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    Do I just leave it like that? I made a mistake and thought I had to press Esc to continue to the next test, and it ended the test.

    Please advise, as I'd like to set it off again tonight.
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  10. Posts : 20,131
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       11 Jan 2018 #90

    There is 40 GB RAM.
    The RAM is mismatched.
    It needs to be tested.
    The DIMM /MB multichannel can be checked when there are 2 or RAM modules in use.
    We had 1 OP check 64 GB RAM. It takes approximately 1 - 2 hours / GB RAM.
    Just 1 error is a fail and you can abort testing.
    Anything less than 8 passes needs to be repeated as there are so many false negatives.
    A false negative is a test pass when there is malfunctioning RAM.
    The RAM can be tested 2 modules at a time to reduce the continuous downtime.
    If you can test the RAM modules with different SKU at the same time that would enable you to test the mismatched RAM.
    See the owners manual for which DIMM should be used for 2 modules.
    Alternatively if you have the time you could test all 4 RAM modules at the same time.
    That is if you have other activities, alternative computer, or can use smart phone.
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