Windows 10: ? After I Moved Libraries ie. Documents, Pictures and Download Folders Solved

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  1.    03 Jan 2018 #21

    >If done right, any thing now downloaded or Saved will end up on D:\ in the new Folders

    Right. That is the case. The pronlem was that it was still writing and saving to the C folders and I could not delete the contents of the C folders without deleting the contents from the newly created D folders.

    >but don't fret too much about "wearing" out a SSD ...never going to happen....for a normal use

    Yeah, I read that as well. I guess it is just my own personal idiosyncrasy. This is the first time I have ever had an SSD (250GB) and I guess I just want to keep it as "clean" and uncluttered as possible.

    >
    You didn't say you were Dual booting ....what 2 windows OS's ?

    My bad. Truthfully I did not think that it mattered. All I did was image the windows 10 pro copy from the SSD using Acronis True Image and write it to the then empty 500GB "D" HDD. WIndows and Acronis took care of the rest. So far no problems.

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    if you moved the Libraries on both OS's to D:\ you could be really confusing the issue....

    Well I did not have to move the libraries on the D drive since they are part of the OS which is why I created that folder "C SSD" and duplicated the folders there. In other words the "D" drive has its own docs folder and it's location I did not mess with. I just created the C SSD folder and moved the C->Users>MYNAME folders there. So I believe I only moved the C folders and left the D folders right where they were.>Perhaps you are confusing Folders and Libraries? Libraries are just a Shortcut to a Folder hence you see the same thing in both.... ie the Documents Library , shows you what is in D:\Documents now not C:\Users\UserNAME\DocumentsConfusion is my middle name : ) I am going to read up some more on "folders and libraries." It may turn out that I'm just chasing my tail.

    >If you moved The libraries to D:\ there should be nothing in the Folders at C:\Users\UserNAME\Docs ...... (Pics) (Downloads)

    Right. Nothing in those folders because as you they are no longer there. I guess my hangup was that I also thought that the Library folders on C would now no longer be needed and would be empty and items would not longer be saved there. In essence what I seem to have achieved is nothing more then a backup of my C folders on to the D drive and while backups are essential that is what I believe external storage is for.



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  2.    03 Jan 2018 #22

    phaedruspress said: View Post


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    You didn't say you were Dual booting ....what 2 windows OS's ?

    My bad. Truthfully I did not think that it mattered. All I did was image the windows 10 pro copy from the SSD using Acronis True Image and write it to the then empty 500GB "D" HDD. WIndows and Acronis took care of the rest. So far no problems.

    Then you are not truely Dual-booting are you? ie you have an option at Boot Time...... you have a full copy (clone) of the SSD on D:\ and can possibly boot from it if needed though?

    Or did the computer have a 500GB HDD which you cloned to the SSD and now you boot off the SSD instead?

    seems to me you are wasting space on D:\ doing that.... you don't need a Clone only an Image....takes less space... I would recommend an external Drive too and Use Acronis or Macrium Reflect to make Images too it as well (not clones) as backups ...personally I use Macrium to do this on a schedule every 3 days to D: every 5 Days to the External....


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  3.    03 Jan 2018 #23

    >Then you are not truely Dual-booting are you?

    Why is not what I am doing called "truly"dual booting? How is this different then say partitioning the C drive in two two partitions and installing Linux on one and leaving the other with windows on it. That is dual booting as well. I I have two internal drives one of which is the SSD and the other is an HDD and I install an OS on the HDD (in this case my installation of the OS is an exact copy of the SSD). That way I can choose at boot up whether or not I want to boot from the SSD or the HDD. Over time the HDD will not mirror the SSD since no doubt I will make subtle changes to each of the drives depending upon which drive I boot from. Are you defining dual booting only if you have two OS installed on the same drive? Perhaps our definitions of dual booting is not the same. I certainly could be wrong but I have always referred to what I am doing as "dual booting." The reason I "dual boot" is for troubleshooting and on the oft chance the SSD or for that matter the HDD craps out I can always boot to the other drive until I can replace the crapped out drive that failed.

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    seems to me you are wasting space on D:\

    Not if as I intended with the beginning of this post was to move the C libraries there and all of its contents : ) In addition I have never had any trouble filling up space and I can certainly see the D drive in addition being able to boot from holding or storing files over time which I do not want to burden the SSD with.

    >
    you don't need a Clone only an Image....takes less space... I would recommend an external Drive too and Use Acronis or Macrium Reflect to make Images too it as well (not clones) as backups ...personally I use Macrium to do this on a schedule every 3 days to D: every 5 Days to the External....

    Yes, I have read quite a bit about MR being excellent software and the free edition the general consensus is that it does everything that is needed. On my previous win 7 home laptop over 7 years old I have been using Acronis to make images and storing them on external drives in case the OS goes sideways. However that edition of True Image dates back to 2012 and I did not think that it was capable of making a good image of today's SSD drives. Fortunately this summer I was able to obtain a free ($45 dollar mail in rebate) of Acronis TI 2017 Retail and that was what I used to image the SSD and write it to the HDD which allowed me to boot up either drive. Bottom line is I am used to working with TI.

    >
    to do this on a schedule every 3 days to D: every 5 Days to the External....

    your backup schedule is better then mine : ) I only used to do it once every couple of months though that is going to change with the new computer.

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  4.    03 Jan 2018 #24

    >Then you are not truely Dual-booting are you?

    Why is not what I am doing called "truly"dual booting? How is this different then say partitioning the C drive in two two partitions and installing Linux on one and leaving the other with windows on it. That is dual booting as well. I I have two internal drives one of which is the SSD and the other is an HDD and I install an OS on the HDD (in this case my installation of the OS is an exact copy of the SSD). That way I can choose at boot up whether or not I want to boot from the SSD or the HDD. Over time the HDD will not mirror the SSD since no doubt I will make subtle changes to each of the drives depending upon which drive I boot from. Are you defining dual booting only if you have two OS installed on the same drive? Perhaps our definitions of dual booting is not the same. I certainly could be wrong but I have always referred to what I am doing as "dual booting." The reason I "dual boot" is for troubleshooting and on the oft chance the SSD or for that matter the HDD craps out I can always boot to the other drive until I can replace the crapped out drive that failed.

    You are using a Bios Boot Option to Boot the Second Drive rather than letting the Windows ( or Linux ) Boot Manager handle the Dual boot , it just isn't the "traditional" Dual Boot way , ....it may help in an emergency but you now have two copies of all your Libraries on D:\ at least I think you do? ....one in the new D:\C_SSD\Documents folder and another in the D:\Users\Username\Documents folder ( along with all the other folders you "moved").... unless you deleted the D:\ User folders?

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    seems to me you are wasting space on D:\

    Not if as I intended with the beginning of this post was to move the C libraries there and all of its contents : ) In addition I have never had any trouble filling up space and I can certainly see the D drive in addition being able to boot from holding or storing files over time which I do not want to burden the SSD with.

    See above

    >
    you don't need a Clone only an Image....takes less space... I would recommend an external Drive too and Use Acronis or Macrium Reflect to make Images too it as well (not clones) as backups ...personally I use Macrium to do this on a schedule every 3 days to D: every 5 Days to the External....

    Yes, I have read quite a bit about MR being excellent software and the free edition the general consensus is that it does everything that is needed. On my previous win 7 home laptop over 7 years old I have been using Acronis to make images and storing them on external drives in case the OS goes sideways. However that edition of True Image dates back to 2012 and I did not think that it was capable of making a good image of today's SSD drives. Fortunately this summer I was able to obtain a free ($45 dollar mail in rebate) of Acronis TI 2017 Retail and that was what I used to image the SSD and write it to the HDD which allowed me to boot up either drive. Bottom line is I am used to working with TI.

    I used TI 2012 in the past but had issues with it in Win10 so started using MR Free ( no TI Voucher) and it has not let me down....

    >
    to do this on a schedule every 3 days to D: every 5 Days to the External....

    your backup schedule is better then mine : ) I only used to do it once every couple of months though that is going to change with the new computer.

    Once setup to run on a schedule to my External etc there is nothing to think about (except plug it in) and it has saved me a few times from bad Win10 Updates, thankfully no Ransomware here, which is the reason for an external and NOT leaving it turned on or plugged in , so the Ransomeware , can't infect it. What ever way you go it is IMPERATIVE to make and test the Bootable Rescue Disk...MR or TI.

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       04 Jan 2018 #25

    For many years with W7 and latterly with W10 I have moved my libraries to my D: drive, and with the exception of when I made errors with the move it has worked well. However since 1709 I have noticed some "issues":
    1. Sometimes a progrmme will recreate a duplicate library back in C:\Users\{MyName}.
    2. In my D: drive I do not use the same name as in the C:\User library, (never had an issue previously), but some programmes though accepting the drive move have created a D:\{MyName\/Documents folder to place their folder in.

    Odd, a little frustrating, as I like things neat and tidy (old age OCD), but manageable.
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  6.    04 Jan 2018 #26

    Jimmyb said: View Post
    For many years with W7 and latterly with W10 I have moved my libraries to my D: drive, and with the exception of when I made errors with the move it has worked well. However since 1709 I have noticed some "issues":
    1. Sometimes a progrmme will recreate a duplicate library back in C:\Users\{MyName}.
    2. In my D: drive I do not use the same name as in the C:\User library, (never had an issue previously), but some programmes though accepting the drive move have created a D:\{MyName\/Documents folder to place their folder in.

    Odd, a little frustrating, as I like things neat and tidy (old age OCD), but manageable.
    Noticed the same as you basically , been moving my Libraries since the early days of SSD's when they were really small ...and expensive.


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  7.    05 Jan 2018 #27

    >You are using a Bios Boot Option to Boot the Second Drive rather than letting the Windows ( or Linux ) Boot Manager handle the Dual boot , it just isn't the "traditional" Dual Boot way

    OK. I was under the impression dual booting from one HDD or dual booting was one and the same

    >.it may help in an emergency

    That is exactly why I wanted to do it in case the SSD craps out or something else went amiss.

    > but you now have two copies of all your Libraries on D:\

    That's right but keep in mind that there will be hardly any activity at least for the foreseeable future on the HDD. For example the corresponding Doc, Downloads etc. folders on the D HDD are currently empty.

    >I used TI 2012 in the past but had issues with it in Win10 so started using MR Free

    Right. Which is why I believe I mentioned that I never even tried to dick around with TI 2012 with the new computer and the SSD. If I had not obtained the 2017 version of TI this summer I would more then likely be using MR free as well.

    >Once setup to run on a schedule to my External etc there is nothing to think

    Like I said your "habits" are better then mine : ) I do however use Acronis to backup folders maybe once a week but I do it manually with Acronis (not scheduled) whereas I do the image as I said monthly or thereabouts.

    >What ever way you go it is IMPERATIVE to make and test the Bootable Rescue Disk...MR or TI.

    Well I know my current image of the SSD is good since I used that to write it to the D drive which enabled me to dual boot.

    Thanks for your help.
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  8.    05 Jan 2018 #28

    phaedruspress said: View Post

    > but you now have two copies of all your Libraries on D:\

    That's right but keep in mind that there will be hardly any activity at least for the foreseeable future on the HDD. For example the corresponding Doc, Downloads etc. folders on the D HDD are currently empty.

    Thanks for your help.
    I am confused then ??? ...cos nothing should be empty on D:\

    You cloned the SSD Drive (C) to the HDD (D) so everything should be in D:\Users\phaedruspress\Docs (or Pics or Music etc)

    AND since you also moved the Libraries off the SSD (C: Drive) to D:\C_SSD\Docs (etc) they should also ALL be in there too.....

    ie taking up twice as much space. The Folders in D:\Users\phaedruspress....... will never be updated , I guess you could of moved the Libraries to the D:\Users\phaedruspress Folders in this particular case and saved space on the HDD

    But maybe I am missing something


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  9. Posts : 10,299
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       05 Jan 2018 #29

    Guys, from reading this I am wondering..... is it possible that he just doesn't understand what is happening and how this works? I notice he says all his user files are missing from C:\Users and are on the D Drive, but when he saves something it saves them in both places. (I was not aware that is even possible) I am just wondering if in file explorer, for example, when he clicks documents and finds his documents, he thinks that means they are on the C drive.

    If all his user folders are not in C:\Users, where is all of the data he thinks is still on C ?
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  10.    05 Jan 2018 #30

    What he thought were Folders on C:\ were his "Libraries" in the Explorer LH Pane ( ie just shortcuts to D:\ after the move of library locations)

    He moved his Libraries to D: ( a HDD) to get them off his 256GB SSD.....

    At least that is my understanding so far......

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