W10 Fail

mousegolf said:

Too funny and redundant. I never had credibility with your ilk anyway. Don't need it. Just want to make sure there is a balance of pro/con input in this forum. The average computer user could care less about coming here and posting their experiences with any Windows OS. They just want whatever they have, repaired and optimized.

You're a loyalist here and the other forum loyalists and champions of new Windows OSes are going to automatically not like my thoughts. I'm not here to please anyone. I am here to express subjective experiences.

I don't even throw major zingers. The guy was not a professional, that was easy for you to see as well. BUT, he doesn't need to be a professional. He, like many in forums around the world "have an opinion". Just like you and me.

I'm not here to please anyone either, I'm here to help people. I'm a Windows 7 fan (feel free to check my help offered on Sevenforums.com) who has helped in the W10 beta to try and help make it the best experience possible and having spent a lot of time using it have found it's a great OS. Now I will help people who are having problems with W10. One thing I will never do though is tell people their opinion doesn't count because they're not a professional, everybody's opinion counts but there are ways to put them across. Condescending is not one of them.

I'm not sure what my 'ilk' is either. You don't know me from Adam so I'm not sure you do either.

mousegolf said:

I have 300 clients total, 75 are active. I run my online remote service from my home and work on all Windows OSes in people's homes around the world. Each one of those people received a warning from me about upgrading or buying W8 about one hour after I downloaded the Beta version. Same thing today. They all received a warning not to upgrade or buy a W10 computer.

I am still pointing, and will point people to Windows 7 64bit from sites, phone/skype calls and off course, my weekly email I send to all of them.

I received many "thank you" emails helping them dodge W8 and buy a new W7 desktop or laptop online. I even shopped with many of them in their browsers after connecting to their computers. These people rely heavily on my research and my subjective experience.

Fact remains that in the business world and the average computer user's world, Windows 7 64 Bit is the best OS Microsoft has put together since XP.

To read that people will have to download a W10 Start Menu to get back to what is "familiar". Wow! That is so ethically wrong by the Windows devs at M$ to make people have to get a third party program to have the same (or similar) experience they have had since Windows XP Start Menu.

When they rolled out W7 with Aero, artists of the world (actually people in general) loved the richness of the interface. Was that "too much" of a bell/whistle for M$ to add to W7? I think not. It did not get in the way of navigating the computer.


Esoteric Windows users love change. Not the masses. The masses want familiarity, a word I have typed a thousand times since W8 was released and will continue to emphize in other Microsoft oriented forums.

Can I change your minds? Of course not. But when people search the Internet for "opinions" on Windows 8/10, they will find these threads of discontent and have some "real experience" spelled out for them before they make their next move to a new OS or a new PC.

Remind me not to ask any advice from people like you. You are actually going against best interests of you customers. Such an attitude is what kept middle ages dark. Yes there were people calling bloody murder about Tesla and Edison and light bulbs, there were outcries about first automobiles and airplanes, trains were supposed to kill people if going faster than 50mph. Brothers Mongolfier had sent a goat 100 meters in the air i their balloon to prove that living beings can take that height even as people were surviving in much higher mountains.
People in IT should also educate people about inevitable changes instead of telling them to bury their heads in sands of time.
If it wasn't for large base of software and catering to people that don't want to move along, I bet MS could make much better OS than now. Instead, they have to tuck a change here and there to make any acceptable progress but even that produces negative reaction with some.
I have now great reservations about windows XP and even W7 usefulness of interface but liked them for a time. Start menu for instance, after collecting hundred or so installed programs it filled up the screen and then some every time I opened it and had to make some alterations (pretty much like W8 and specially W10 Start menu) just to be able to find them faster.
If I, an old geezer and many like me can learn new system, everybody that wants to can. Don't forget millions of young people that are more used to interface on smart phones and tablets and would be hard pressed to find anything on windows 3.1 for instance. Heck they can't even tell how to start music from cassette tapes on a Walkman from 15 years ago but with Modern Apps they are right at home.

welcometoheaven said:

Just like comparing a car to an operating system? Your statement was he is not a professional if he doesn't hold your opinion, my response is their are many who do hold his opinion and are professionals.

Yup, my Lexus RX450h is shit loads better than Windows XP

z3r010 said:

Yup, my Lexus RX450h is shit loads better than Windows XP

Should have seen my 1970 Mach 1 Mustang !!!! Don't laugh, I had windows on it.

CountMike said:

Should have seen my 1970 Mach 1 Mustang !!!! Don't laugh, I had windows on it.

HAD!?!?!?