Windows 10: Observation.

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  1.    24 Dec 2017 #21

    roy111 said: View Post
    What windows 7 were you using?
    I used starter, home and pro and never had a forced update (beside maybe the GWX update);
    are you serious or are just ... well s trolling:)
    I am using Win 7 pro on my dual boot and don't have forced update issues. I have the choice of installing the updates or not. Maybe Strollin didn't have the option turned off.
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  2.    24 Dec 2017 #22

    If neglect for some time W7 updating has become difficult and lengthy process. My is very early version updated only to SP1 and last few update attempts failed miserably. When forced it broke it's license so I left it at SP1. It's used only for some games and as a "spare" system. MS has practically lost all interest in it as it doesn't feature in any of their plans. Basically it's dead !!!
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  3. Posts : 986
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       24 Dec 2017 #23

    dencal said: View Post
    Type in Search.....anything you wish to know is instantly located or explained....just couldn't be simpler.
    For sure that is one way of doing things. I use it often in both Windows 10 and Windows 7.

    Thanks for the reminder.

    Jack
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  4. Posts : 324
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit Edition
       24 Dec 2017 #24

    Mothie, Its really not Microsoft, If you buy a computer from manufactures, they tend to modify the OS so they can add their own software.
    I bought a ACER Aspire 5515, came with Vista Home Basic,, that was what it was basic windows for it to run. I had lots of problems with it. Malware update kept trying to remove ACER's software, I had it repaired 3 times under warranty, still had same problems.
    I even bought a Vista DVD to upgrade Home Basic to Home Premium, the files needed to do upgrade were missing. I went looking for full version of Vista and they were already gone from shelves. I bought a System Builders Service Pack of Windows 7 and installed it on the ACER.
    I never had any problems since I did that clean install, That ACER took a lot of punishment, it hit the floor lots of times and still booted up. the casing is busted up, monitor doesn't work, but can hook up external one.
    From what I have read on Facebook on Microsoft page,,, Windows 10 was more designed for businesses than us the average users.
    Networking is a bunch of computers linked together for sharing like business computers are.
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  5. Posts : 744
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 (laptop), W10Pro (tablet)
       24 Dec 2017 #25

    MrHudson said: View Post
    ...
    Networking is a bunch of computers linked together for sharing like business computers are.
    You mean kinda like the internet is????
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  6. Posts : 7,033
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       25 Dec 2017 #26

    CountMike said: View Post
    If neglect for some time W7 updating has become difficult and lengthy process. My is very early version updated only to SP1 and last few update attempts failed miserably. When forced it broke it's license so I left it at SP1. It's used only for some games and as a "spare" system. MS has practically lost all interest in it as it doesn't feature in any of their plans. Basically it's dead !!!
    No, not dead at all, actually it's borrowed some of the new Win10 habits - monthly update rollups.

    Win7 updates got horribly slow because there were so many of them it took (literally) hours to determine which of the myriad your particular PC needed. What was desperately needed was a new service pack to draw a line in the sand and reset the baseline.

    It never got one, but it got the next best thing, the Convenience rollup update for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 (KB3125574) (only available from the Update Catalog). Install that then use Disk Clean up to clean up system files, service packs and the windows update backups - then Win7's windows update runs smoothly again.

    I've just restored a Win7 laptop to its factory image, it's so old that it predates even SP1 (so I then had to install that), then the convenience rollup followed by a clean up. After that windows update ran smoothly and brought it fully up to date.

    This is the only machine I have that's never been updated to Win10. As it has no digital licence for Win10 I'm going to use it in the New Year to test if MS have finally turned off the upgrades after Dec. 31st as that have said they will.
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  7.    26 Dec 2017 #27

    Bree said: View Post
    I'm going to use it in the New Year to test if MS have finally turned off the upgrades after Dec. 31st as that have said they will.
    Did Microsoft actually say that? Or did "that" say that

    The end of free upgrades is all just rumours based on nothing as far as I can tell.
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  • Posts : 7,033
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       26 Dec 2017 #28

    lx07 said: View Post
    The end of free upgrades is all just rumours based on nothing as far as I can tell.
    Based on this official statement...
    Microsoft said:
    The accessibility upgrade offer expires on December 31, 2017.
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acce...ndows10upgrade

    It is reasonable to assume that issuing digital licences for an upgrade was left turned on to support the accessibility upgrades, and will be turned off once the offer ends.
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  • Posts : 744
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 (laptop), W10Pro (tablet)
       26 Dec 2017 #29

    However, the accessibility upgrade isn't even needed. If you download the Windows Media Creation Tool and use it, you have been able to upgrade all along. The only thing that MS discontinued, that I'm aware of, is the GW10 stuff that was pushing the upgrade hard.
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    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       26 Dec 2017 #30

    strollin said: View Post
    However, the accessibility upgrade isn't even needed. If you download the Windows Media Creation Tool and use it, you have been able to upgrade all along...
    A logical assumption is that the free licence after an upgrade had to be left in place as it was the way accessibility upgrades got theirs. But they officially end on 31st December, so it can (at last) be turned off.

    The only way to test that theory is to wait for the New Year then try upgrading a machine that has no licence yet - there can't be many of those left, but I have one I can use to test that.
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