File Attributes - Shows as Hidden in DOS, shows as System in Explorer

I had a user complain he couldn't see (& delete) a lock file our program had created.

I can find it in a command prompt, dir /ah (and NOT dir /as). In Explorer, Folder Options->View->Uncheck "Hide Protected operating System Files" which stops Explorer displaying files with the System attribute set (+S) (properties confirms the file has RHSAI)

Neither the command prompt nor the explorer window are running with Administrative permissions.

Any idea why this file should have different attributes in these two processes?

What Version of DOS ? What File system does this file reside in ? Most DOS O.S.'s never supported NTFS ! Results could really be mixed.

dir /ah shows hidden and system, dir /as shows only system

Code:

c:\>dir /ah
 Volume in drive C is MacBook
 Volume Serial Number is 56FB-28EE

 Directory of c:\

11/20/2017  02:18 PM    <DIR>          $Recycle.Bin
04/02/2017  06:40 AM    <JUNCTION>     Documents and Settings [C:\Users]
12/16/2017  04:09 PM    <DIR>          OneDriveTemp
12/16/2017  04:08 PM     2,818,572,288 pagefile.sys
10/26/2017  10:51 PM    <DIR>          ProgramData
10/18/2017  12:47 PM    <DIR>          Recovery
12/16/2017  04:08 PM        16,777,216 swapfile.sys
12/11/2017  10:33 AM    <DIR>          System Volume Information
               2 File(s)  2,835,349,504 bytes
               6 Dir(s)  18,647,650,304 bytes free

c:\>dir /as
 Volume in drive C is MacBook
 Volume Serial Number is 56FB-28EE

 Directory of c:\

11/20/2017  02:18 PM    <DIR>          $Recycle.Bin
04/02/2017  06:40 AM    <JUNCTION>     Documents and Settings [C:\Users]
12/16/2017  04:08 PM     2,818,572,288 pagefile.sys
10/18/2017  12:47 PM    <DIR>          Recovery
12/16/2017  04:08 PM        16,777,216 swapfile.sys
12/11/2017  10:33 AM    <DIR>          System Volume Information
               2 File(s)  2,835,349,504 bytes
               4 Dir(s)  18,647,650,304 bytes free

c:\>

If you want you can exclude system and just show hidden

Code:

c:\>dir /ah-s
 Volume in drive C is MacBook
 Volume Serial Number is 56FB-28EE

 Directory of c:\

12/16/2017  04:09 PM    <DIR>          OneDriveTemp
10/26/2017  10:51 PM    <DIR>          ProgramData
               0 File(s)              0 bytes
               2 Dir(s)  18,645,086,208 bytes free

Difference between dir /ah and dir /as in File explorer is not "Hide protected operating system files" it is "Show hidden files" so unless I don't understand your question they are not ticking the correct box.

O/S is Win 10 Professional, looking at files on a local disk (NTFS).

Code:

D:\temp>attrib ~variantsnone1.scm
A   HR             D:\temp\~variantsnone1.scm

See I don't think it has got the system attribute set

and querying the same file with Explorer
Attachment 168885

craker said:

and querying the same file with Explorer
Attachment 168885

Link is not working. Can you try again.

It's a dead link (to a picture I removed, just removed my personal details). Can't seem to remove the link using the editor though...