1.    15 Oct 2017 #1
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    How should my rig run Guild Wars 2?


    Had a quick performance question:
    I am running GW2 with the following rig -

    • CPU: i5-4460
    • Motherboard: ASUS H81M-PLUS
    • Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
    • Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    • Hard Drives:256 Gb Samsung SSD
    • PSU: Super Flower 450W 80+ Gold Rated PSU

    And I am running the game at roughly 30-40fps on pretty much any setting (ie bringing down the graphics doesn't improve fps). Is this normal? or should it run better? (Also CPU temperature is between 60-75 and CPU usage ranges from 80-100%)

    Thanks
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  2.    15 Oct 2017 #2
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    Your system specs are decent but on the low end side....which is why you're seeing those kinds of fps....to be expected for such a build.

    My concerns; is the temps you've listed, are those temps at load or idle? Your tCase temp is set/rated by Intel at 72.72 degrees C. So my next questions; how is your case being cooled and what type of cpu cooler are you using?

    Intel Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz) Product Specifications
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  3.    15 Oct 2017 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plankton View Post
    My concerns; is the temps you've listed, are those temps at load or idle? Your tCase temp is set/rated by Intel at 72.72 degrees C. So my next questions; how is your case being cooled and what type of cpu cooler are you using?
    Intel Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz) Product Specifications
    Idling right now I'm in the low-mid 50s - when it get busier it goes up to 60 and it only spiked higher on one occasion.
    Using the default intel fan that came with the CPU and several fans on the case itself, that's all.

    I've been running around doing general playing for 10 minutes and the highest it has gone is 62, so might have just been an anomaly or the CPU was working particularly hard?
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  4.    15 Oct 2017 #4
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    IMO.....you have a cooling issue. Mine at idle is around 25 - 30 degrees C and at load 45 -50 degrees C. I would strongly suggest you get an after market CPU cooler.... the Hyper 212 Evo is the number 1 recommended air cooler... best bang for buck in it's class. I use one. It's a 120mm cooler...big. So you would need to make sure your case can house it properly. They do make a 92mm size, also very good.

    What is the make/model of your case? Could take some pics of your system; case and then remove side panel and a few shots of the inside. Just so I have an idea of what I'm looking at.
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  5.    15 Oct 2017 #5
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    I forgot to ask; what is your RAM frequency (speed) set at?
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  6.    15 Oct 2017 #6
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    What CPU Cooler do you have? Your system is running too hot, but not dangerously hot from what you are saying. The TCase Intel sites is basically useless for us mere mortals. It is the temp of the CPU Die and can only be read if you were to drill a hole in the IHS and insert a thermocouple. What Software reads is TJ Max, or the temp of the cores, and is the point at which your CPU will throttle or shut down. That usually runs 20+C higher than TCase. Most programs like Core Temp and Real Temp will give you the TJ Max temp. I would suggest you stay well below that temp as the readings are pretty inaccurate. I always try to stay 25-20C below mine.

    What CPU cooler are you using and when was the last time thermal paste was applied?

    As an example, Intel says my TCase temp is 66.6C, but my TJ Max is 105C. Quite a difference.
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  7.    15 Oct 2017 #7
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    Case: Antec GX300 Combat Ready Windowed Midi Tower Gaming Case
    And for RAM, i have no idea how do i check
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  8.    15 Oct 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    What CPU Cooler do you have? Your system is running too hot, but not dangerously hot from what you are saying. The TCase Intel sites is basically useless for us mere mortals. It is the temp of the CPU Die and can only be read if you were to drill a hole in the IHS and insert a thermocouple. What Software reads is TJ Max, or the temp of the cores, and is the point at which your CPU will throttle or shut down. That usually runs 20+C higher than TCase. Most programs like Core Temp and Real Temp will give you the TJ Max temp. I would suggest you stay well below that temp as the readings are pretty inaccurate. I always try to stay 25-20C below mine.

    What CPU cooler are you using and when was the last time thermal paste was applied?

    As an example, Intel says my TCase temp is 66.6C, but my TJ Max is 105C. Quite a difference.
    Here is a screenshot of my realTemp readings with GW2 idle in the background
    Cooler is default intel cooler and thermal paste hasn't been changed since i bought the processor last year
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  9.    15 Oct 2017 #9
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    In your Real Temp screen, the distance to TJ Max is the distance to thermal shutdown, and is not an exact temp, so stay well away from TJ Max.

    The stock Intel Cooler is not very effective.

    I don't play Guild Wars so know nothing about the game. Unless it is a very demanding game, I would have thought your rig would do better than you have reported. Changing your graphics settings should make a difference in any game, I would think.

    EDIT:
    See if this makes a difference. Go to your power plan and set it to High Performance, then go to Nvidia Control Panel and in manage 3D settings look for Power Management Mode and set it to prefer Maximum Performance. Click Apply at the bottom of the screen. Set your in game graphics to a lower setting. I would try the lowest and see if that works better. If you are getting goo performance, you can raise it to where you get better graphics at acceptable FPS.
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  10.    15 Oct 2017 #10
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    I just added to my post above in case you already read it.
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