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  1.    31 Dec 2016 #1
    Join Date : Sep 2016
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    Windows 10

    Compatibility issues with XP-era and earlier games


    I replaced my son's museum-piece PC (running XP and purchased in 2007, and somehow no problems, ever, with it) this week with an all-in-one Windows 10 one. He went from having the worst/oldest computer in the house, to having the newest.

    The only weak link is that he had some games that were sentimental favorites (think "Backyard Baseball"), that don't run or install now, including exposing the installer and the program exe files to compatibility mode.

    On the "urgency continuum" this is low.

    But on principle, I'd like to see if I can make these games work. Any suggestions?

    I found an emulator (ScummVM), the workings of which are documented on pages like Backyard Baseball (CD Windows) Game < ScummVM Games | Emuparadise - can't tell if this solves my problem, but looking for perspective here, please.
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  2.    31 Dec 2016 #2
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Forever West
    Posts : 3,921
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint

    There's usually 2 problems when going from WinXP or WinVista, sometimes Win7, to Win10. One is the version of Win10, whether 32-bit or 64-bit, WinXP Professional had either version but other versions were only 32-bit. The other issue involves hardware and software drivers for WinXP that usually don't work with Win10. Using a VM/Virtual Machine "may" work but again the hardware drivers for things like games may not be available. I have kept a "museum piece" WinXP only because the BIOS on the motherboard supports 2 floppy drives [newer ones support only 1 drive or none at all] and I have a 3.5" and 5.25" combination drive in it plus an Iomega 250MB Zip drive, useful when clients find old disks they either need the data from or just want to see what it is.
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  3.    01 Jan 2017 #3
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Balayan, Batangas
    Posts : 413
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    You can try running the game using vmware. But it'll require a 64-bit version of windows. What's the specs of your son's PC?
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  4.    01 Jan 2017 #4
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,426
    W10 Insider + Linux

    I have seen problems with DirectX and games with versions 7 and earlier. Problems with games for Dx9 can usually be overcome by attempting install of Dx9 distro which just ads few parts without ruining anything else. Never tried installing earlier versions. There was also a slew of 16bit games and that's impossible to run on 64bit windows of any kind.
    There were few games I still have and would like to play again but now they wouldn't play even in W7 any more. I had a pretty lousy computer at that time (XP) and would love to play them again on this HW but can't even get XP to run on it. No compatibility modes work either.
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  5.    01 Jan 2017 #5
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by RoasterMen View Post
    You can try running the game using vmware. But it'll require a 64-bit version of windows. What's the specs of your son's PC?
    Not sure of every detail, but it's 64-bit, for sure.
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  6.    01 Jan 2017 #6
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 575
    Win10 & Win7

    If an older game used a SecureRom driver to implement digital rights management then it won't install properly since Win10 considers this a security risk and will not install it. You can see a list of the games that use SecureRom by Googling SecureRom.
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  7.    01 Jan 2017 #7
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Balayan, Batangas
    Posts : 413
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    GTA IV still uses SecuROM and it worked fine on my desktop (Windows 10 Pro 64-bit)
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  8.    01 Jan 2017 #8
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 575
    Win10 & Win7

    Quote Originally Posted by RoasterMen View Post
    GTA IV still uses SecuROM and it worked fine on my desktop (Windows 10 Pro 64-bit)
    You probably play it through Steam, right? Steam manages DRM without SecureRom. I can tell you unequivocally that SecureRom.sys will not be installed by Win10.
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  9.    02 Jan 2017 #9
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Balayan, Batangas
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by SoFine409 View Post
    You probably play it through Steam, right? Steam manages DRM without SecureRom. I can tell you unequivocally that SecureRom.sys will not be installed by Win10.
    I'm using the retail version.
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  10.    02 Jan 2017 #10
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 575
    Win10 & Win7

    Quote Originally Posted by RoasterMen View Post
    I'm using the retail version.
    How is that possible. I'm very curious. Are you using a "No CD" add on?
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