Windows 10: Low performance in games - WIN10

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  1.    12 Sep 2016 #1

    Low performance in games - WIN10


    Hello,
    as title suggest, I have constant stutters, microstutters and FPS drops in almost every game, even when I usually exceed recommended requirements, althoutht OS itself seems to run fine.
    I had not any of these problems before the upgrade from Windows 8.1.

    Problem details: Stutters and slowdowns occurs even when my Framerate per second is between 50-60, which should be high above smooth gameplay (so everything under 60FPS is notable slowed down) althought games runned smooth before on these FPS.
    I think something in windows is interfering with Vertical synchronisation - this function should ensure smooth experience when FPS does not equal Hz on screen, but as I found out, performance is still the same if either Vsync is on or off.
    Or problem may be somewhere else.
    Please kindly check attachments for more informations.

    Best regards
    ...and sorry for my crude english
    Low performance in games - WIN10 Attached Files
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  2.    12 Sep 2016 #2

    Problem is you're running Windows 10 and you've installed the Anniversary Update (Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393) (14393.rs1_release_inmarket.160819-1924)), which introduced a lovely bug that randomly lags your system down to around 5% of it's normal speed. Causes games to run around 5-6fps (ANY game), and in case you haven't noticed will happen when you're just using your system normally. (Happens when I'm watching YouTube sometimes, the whole system just grinds to a near halt).

    Solution? I have no freaking idea. Some people are speculating this problem occurs when you have User Files (%My Documents%, %My Pictures%, etc) on a secondary drive, or a drive different from your Windows Installation folder.

    judging by your HDD stuff that may be what's happening here.

    Microsoft supposedly released a fix on 8/31/2016 for this issue, but for me it didn't fix the problem. Some things that people are doing to fix the issue:

    Rollback to previous version (this option goes away 10 days after the Anniversary Update is installed)
    Move user files to your primary drive (in your case C:, or their default location), assuming you did move those files to a secondary drive.
    Apply a bunch of other fixes that don't seem to help. (Here's a great post on Reddit detailing what people are attempting)
    Reinstall Windows 10 (search for "Recovery" in your start menu), and reinstall the AU (Sometimes fixes it)

    As far as I know this issue has NOTHING to do with vsync, but YMMV.

    Additional Note: This isn't really a gaming issue, it's a Windows 10 issue. Good luck.
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  3.    12 Sep 2016 #3

    Hello Android8675,
    thanks for your answer. Here are some notes to your solutions:

    -I dont know anything about anniversary edition, I just run windows update once in a while. But problem with unstable FPS originates from time when I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 several weeks ago. Maybe something screwed up at that time. But lately almost any game has became stutterfest - worse than ever before.
    -I already have my User files on C as well as windows.
    -I reinstalled all my drivers from laptop manufacturer site as after every update (because windows make a mess from my drives after every update for some reason)

    What about that manufactuter configuration recovery? Will it install back my default OS - i.e. windows 8?
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  4.    12 Sep 2016 #4

    RulerKelso said: View Post
    Hello Android8675,
    thanks for your answer. Here are some notes to your solutions:

    -I dont know anything about anniversary edition, I just run windows update once in a while. But problem with unstable FPS originates from time when I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 several weeks ago. Maybe something screwed up at that time. But lately almost any game has became stutterfest - worse than ever before.
    -I already have my User files on C as well as windows.
    -I reinstalled all my drivers from laptop manufacturer site as after every update (because windows make a mess from my drives after every update for some reason)

    What about that manufactuter configuration recovery? Will it install back my default OS - i.e. windows 8?
    https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2...rsary%20update

    If you updated several weeks ago then you have Anniversary Update (AU) version of Windows 10. This stutterfest is a bug with this update.

    If your system had Windows 8 on it before, the Mfg. Configuration Recovery would return you to Windows 8. I would do that. You can still upgrade to Windows 10 on the same laptop later if you want. I don't know if doing a clean install to Windows 10 would help, but I would do some google searching and find out. I pretty much gave up trying to fix my system. As soon as I can find the time I'm going to backup everything and reinstall from scratch. I'm hoping I can find the budget to upgrade my hardware as well, but we shall see.

    -A.
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  5.    16 Sep 2016 #5

    I have heard that AU updated the Windows Display Driver Model to v2.1 and that it seems the issue could be stemming from that fact alone. Latest two nVidia driver updates work like crap. AMD cards may have issues too. After reading Android8675 post, it seems this issue may be hard to pinpoint. I hope MS is aware of this and issue a patch soon. In the interim I am running my GTX 970 with older drivers and, so far, all games I have tested run fine.
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  6.    16 Sep 2016 #6

    winver will tell you what build you are using. Builds that start with 14**** are Anniversary Update builds and should be avoided (not necessarily) until everything's sorted out by Microsoft.
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  7.    16 Sep 2016 #7

    eLPuSHeR said: View Post
    I have heard that AU updated the Windows Display Driver Model to v2.1 and that it seems the issue could be stemming from that fact alone. Latest two nVidia driver updates work like crap. AMD cards may have issues too. After reading Android8675 post, it seems this issue may be hard to pinpoint. I hope MS is aware of this and issue a patch soon. In the interim I am running my GTX 970 with older drivers and, so far, all games I have tested run fine.
    Yeah, I've browsed 10-20 different websites looking for an answer, the Reddit thread I found held some promise, but it's died off a bit because there was an update on Aug 31st that allegedly fixed the issue, but my system is still randomly slowing to a stutter.

    I was thinking it might be my video card, a memory issue of some sort that's causing the problem, but since MS doesn't have tech support there's really no way to know for sure. What video drivers are you running? I just updated today to the latest nVidia and am still having issues. Maybe I'll try their beta update, if there is one.
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  8.    17 Sep 2016 #8

    I am running 369.09 installed from Windows Update. All newer 37x.xx releases (downloaded from nVidia) perform terribly bad.

    Also, another thing to take into account: these newer 37x.xx releases also include a newer VSYNC setting called "Fast Vsync" that resembles a real implementation of Triple Buffering technique for D3D. Maybe there could be some issues with it.

    ALSO, regular VSYNC doesn't work anymore for D3D if it's at factory defaults at nVidia control panel "Managed by application". It only works when Forced ON from within nVidia CP. This is a known issue, already acknowledged by nVidia. Funny thing, they have already released two 37x.xx series driver and they haven't fixed it yet.

    That's why I am steering clear of 37x.xx series for now.

    PS. After browsing nVidia forum, I see a lot of people with newer Pascal cards are also having a lot of issues, namely, low gpu usage and underutilization no matter what. Some microstuttering too and some older titles not working properly or at all.
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  9.    17 Sep 2016 #9

    It all boils down to the Graphics Drivers that NVIDIA released.
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  10.    17 Sep 2016 #10

    Windows 10 AU here, and no performance issue at all on my games.
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