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  1.    02 Apr 2016 #31
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    Becoming a PC, not a super computer. You don't need big balls to do the PC stuff like Internet, Facebook, YouTube. The games that run on it are tailored to its internals.
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  2.    02 Apr 2016 #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Becoming a PC, not a super computer. You don't need big balls to do the PC stuff like Internet, Facebook, YouTube. The games that run on it are tailored to its internals.

    Exactly that would give it broad market appeal beyond console slave gaming or an STB and it could be a legitimate all in one or HTPC for that price point market and you could probably use a PC screen and TV with wireless controls (mouse and KB) and a HDMI switch unless it can already do that if they don't screw it up or the PS 4 comes up with Windows 10
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  3.    02 Apr 2016 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Funny that Apple doesn't make a gaming console? I guess they figure their to refined to game?
    Maybe they think that Gamers are smarter than ordinary computer users.
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  4.    02 Apr 2016 #34
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    Originally Posted by alphanumeric
    Funny that Apple doesn't make a gaming console? I guess they figure their to refined to game?
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Maybe they think that Gamers are smarter than ordinary computer users.
    We all know Gamers rule PC's or at least the most the bleeding edge PC's

    OTOH They want everybody buying IOS apps ,silly tard games & iTunes they get ~30% of the money from in the walled gardens of Apple and playing tard games ,videos and music on they expensive fruit phones and tard pads not to mention they timed mobile and pimped the market extraordinarily well !


    It seems to have worked out pretty well for them considering thier MKT cap is sometimes almost twice that of Microsoft and at times the top of the fortune 500 and always nearly so and they almost went out of business a while back when the Pepsi dude & empty suits were running the show there before the messiah returned and brought them back from the dead .

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  5.    03 Apr 2016 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    Exactly that would give it broad market appeal beyond console slave gaming or an STB and it could be a legitimate all in one or HTPC for that price point market and you could probably use a PC screen and TV with wireless controls (mouse and KB) and a HDMI switch unless it can already do that if they don't screw it up or the PS 4 comes up with Windows 10
    I must have miss read your other post and took it the wrong way?

    They need to work on it a bit to make it a true HTPC, IMHO. It will do Netflix and some other similar subscription services. It has HDMI in and HDMI out, you could use a TV or PC monitor. It will connect to your surround sound system too. With the IR blaster it can mimic your other devices remote control. You can have it turn your TV and surround on and off when you turn the XBOX on and off. And adjust volume or change the channel on your cable box with the XBOX media remote. ++

    There is no local storage on the hard drive though so you need to connect a thumb drive or USB hard drive with your media on it to play it right on the XBOX. Or stream it over your network. That I'd like to see changed. Also, the Media Player App from the XBOX store is as basic as it gets with next to no user options. It plays my MP3's alphabetically instead of by track number. I installed Groove but it couldn't or wouldn't play my MP3's from the thumb drive. It also showed as being a trial? It's free on your PC so why charge for it on XBOX? Big -

    Out of the box, your game controller is your remote control. It can turn the XBOX on and off all by itself and navigate all the menus etc. You have to use an onscreen keyboard for chatting or browser inputs. There is a small keyboard attachment for the controller, I'm tempted to buy it but haven't yet. I did buy the optional media remote though. It also can turn the XBOX on and off and navigate the menus. It has the media, volume up down, next track etc buttons the game controller doesn't. So far I've been switching back and forth between the two. I find the joystick easier for cursor placement. ++

    There is no mouse support, it's rumored to be coming in an update. I tried my Logitech trackball and trackpad and they didn't do didly squat on the XBOX. On a PC they work just like a USB mouse with no extra drivers required. I have two keyboards with built in trackpads built in. The keyboard part worked but the trackpads didn't. They need to add mouse support asap, IMHO. Another -

    It has the Snap option like Windows 10 on a PC so in theory, I could watch TV and use Edge at the same time, etc. I haven't actually tried it yet though. I have to figure out what button to press on the game controller to do it. I've done it by accident once. I don't remember what two things I snapped though. I've been mostly just playing games so far.

    There are a lot of things I like and some I don't. It's a work in progress, IMHO. The gaming part works great.
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  6.    03 Apr 2016 #36
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    In a nutshell

    It will be like this in 2017, Sony PlayStation Vs MS Xbox and Vise-Vera MS Xbox Vs Sony PlayStation a viscous power play game, where a current console will be out dated within a year or less


    Just like Samsung and Apple in the mobile wars and battles every year or so a new device will be dropped in this trillion dollar industry " this is the new trend now and this will apply to game consoles every year or so something new will be brought into the market a never ending and highly profitable game for the big 3 or 4 firms out there....

    Money Money Money
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  7.    03 Apr 2016 #37
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    There is some backward compatibility. My XBOX ONE will play XBOX 360 games. It's not yearly either, the 360 was released in November 2005, the PS3 was released in November 2013.
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  8.    03 Apr 2016 #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I must have miss read your other post and took it the wrong way?

    They need to work on it a bit to make it a true HTPC, IMHO. It will do Netflix and some other similar subscription services. It has HDMI in and HDMI out, you could use a TV or PC monitor. It will connect to your surround sound system too. With the IR blaster it can mimic your other devices remote control. You can have it turn your TV and surround on and off when you turn the XBOX on and off. And adjust volume or change the channel on your cable box with the XBOX media remote. ++

    There is no local storage on the hard drive though so you need to connect a thumb drive or USB hard drive with your media on it to play it right on the XBOX. Or stream it over your network. That I'd like to see changed. Also, the Media Player App from the XBOX store is as basic as it gets with next to no user options. It plays my MP3's alphabetically instead of by track number. I installed Groove but it couldn't or wouldn't play my MP3's from the thumb drive. It also showed as being a trial? It's free on your PC so why charge for it on XBOX? Big -

    Out of the box, your game controller is your remote control. It can turn the XBOX on and off all by itself and navigate all the menus etc. You have to use an onscreen keyboard for chatting or browser inputs. There is a small keyboard attachment for the controller, I'm tempted to buy it but haven't yet. I did buy the optional media remote though. It also can turn the XBOX on and off and navigate the menus. It has the media, volume up down, next track etc buttons the game controller doesn't. So far I've been switching back and forth between the two. I find the joystick easier for cursor placement. ++

    There is no mouse support, it's rumored to be coming in an update. I tried my Logitech trackball and trackpad and they didn't do didly squat on the XBOX. On a PC they work just like a USB mouse with no extra drivers required. I have two keyboards with built in trackpads built in. The keyboard part worked but the trackpads didn't. They need to add mouse support asap, IMHO. Another -

    It has the Snap option like Windows 10 on a PC so in theory, I could watch TV and use Edge at the same time, etc. I haven't actually tried it yet though. I have to figure out what button to press on the game controller to do it. I've done it by accident once. I don't remember what two things I snapped though. I've been mostly just playing games so far.

    There are a lot of things I like and some I don't. It's a work in progress, IMHO. The gaming part works great.
    With windows 10 maybe someone could download Kodi x86 into X Box One ...... that alone and an an eternal USB HDD or a few of them on a USB hub will just about make it into a real HTPC right there without much effort .

    FWIW I put Android Kodi in my 4K Sony Andoid TV and a phat USB HDD is plugged into the TV ....it's all working fine without a slave game console or a PC or extender intermediate and you can network a LAN server into Kodi although the PS3 and This PC in here occupy HDMI ports in the TV also.they have a media remote for PS 3 and maybe PS4 if you use it as an extender or disc player but I just have the dual shock controllers and one of those hacked for PC gaming .

    The TV will take KB & mouse or any number of tard pads and phones to pair with it or stream to it ,it has built in Chrome cast ,Opera & Google Chrome in there ( they are slow Android browsers though) and it also has another touch pad remote and voice search & it will take a PS3 controller and stream PS3 games without a console and PS 4 pretty soon .

    Windows 10 and Kodi in an X Box One should be a way cool snap with the more powerful X86 AMD APU's in an X box than any OS SoC ARM CPU you will find in a TV outside the video silicon
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  9.    03 Apr 2016 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    With windows 10 maybe someone could download Kodi x86 into X Box One ...... that alone and an an eternal USB HDD or a few of them on a USB hub will just about make it into a real HTPC right there without much effort .

    FWIW I put Android Kodi in my 4K Sony Andoid TV and a phat USB HDD is plugged into the TV ....it's all working fine without a slave game console or a PC intermediate and you can network a LAN server into Kodi although the PS3 and the This PC in here occupy HDMI ports in the TV also.

    The TV will take KB & mouse or any number of tard pads and phones to pair with it or stream to it ,it has built in Chrome cast and it also has another touch pad remote and voice search & it will take a PS3 controller and stream PS3 games without a console and PS 4 pretty soon .

    Windows 10 and Kodi in an X Box One should be a snap with the more powerful X86 AMD APU's in an X box than any OS SoC ARM CPU you will find in a TV outside the video silicon
    You can't download and install programs on an XBOX like you can on a PC. All you can install over the internet, through the Store, is Apps or games. From the optical drive, all you can do is install XBOX games or play media. Same deal for USB except its just play media. They call it Windows 10, but it's not at all like Windows 10 on a PC. There is no file explorer, control panel, add remove programs etc. All you get is basically a sort of Start Screen with Tiles for your Apps or games. It's restricted in what it can do and run.

    I run OPENELECT/KODI on one of my Raspberry Pi's with a thumb drive connected with my music collection on it. I just switch to HDMI 2 on my TV when I want to use it. I would gladly replace it with my XBOX but the XBOX Media Player sucks big time.
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  10.    03 Apr 2016 #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    You can't download and install programs on an XBOX like you can on a PC. All you can install over the internet, through the Store, is Apps or games. From the optical drive, all you can do is install XBOX games or play media. Same deal for USB except its just play media. They call it Windows 10, but it's not at all like Windows 10 on a PC. There is no file explorer, control panel, add remove programs etc. All you get is basically a sort of Start Screen with Tiles for your Apps or games. It's restricted in what it can do and run.

    I run OPENELECT/KODI on one of my Raspberry Pi's with a thumb drive connected with my music collection on it. I just switch to HDMI 2 on my TV when I want to use it. I would gladly replace it with my XBOX but the XBOX Media Player sucks big time.
    Outside of the slow web browsers the numerous Android apps available in the 2015 -2016 embedded Sony Andoid TV systems in the XBR sets work decently (most of them anyway ) but the USB video player sucks . It comes with Kodi or you get it out the Google play store with other media player apps including VLC, Archos and some music players and Sony has one in the TV also never used it though .

    If MS would put full W 10 on the X box One if it has enough ram I'm thinking it should that would be cool or maybe a decent hack
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