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RamenRider · 25 Dec 2020

empleat said:

Question: what language you use in Windows 10, not just input method, but for display??? English Philippines has lower input lag, than Engish US. User X7007 found this on overclock.net Test it out, it is same english

Tell me what language you previously used and what feels like it has lower input lag! I would be interested TY!

X7007 didn't find that. I found that info from another forum and shared to him. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D90UqHmU...ng&name=medium

You need to update your info bro. AMD is better for both gaming and streaming. Intel was only far ahead for a long time because they bribed retailers to make them a monopoly over the PC industry. Intel - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology. - YouTube

And the reason why I use AMD Gpus was because I found the Nvidia drivers nvlddmkm had always high DPC latency.

empleat · 25 Dec 2020

RamenRider said:

X7007 didn't find that. I found that info from another forum and shared to him. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D90UqHmU...ng&name=medium

LMAO do you care who found that?

I just mentioned him so people can look him up for tweaks. There is usually someone else, who already found something and was using it, before someone else. Who cares honestly? Just if it works... And I can't possibly know who found that first... I don't remember anyways, where I found what

RamenRider said:

You need to update your info bro. AMD is better for both gaming and streaming. Intel was only far ahead for a long time because they bribed retailers to make them a monopoly over the PC industry. Intel - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology. - YouTube

And the reason why I use AMD Gpus was because I found the Nvidia drivers nvlddmkm had always high DPC latency.

Is it? Microsoft doesn't patch AMD (maybe even boycotts it) and even it is better now - I heard: e.g. that issue with multiple cores not being utilized. I don't use it, so I don't know, what has higher input lag. I have only a second hand opinion. You would have to tell me! Also AMD's USB chipset is bad (maybe will get fixed with a BIOS update) and their USB controller has lower polling rate! Don't know if it can be fixed with editing USB register. Also i read a lot of complaints about input lag on AMD CPUs!

Also what is better in terms of performance depends:
If you are streaming, then yes AMD is better! But if you play competitive games - e.g. some older games like CS GO. Which can't utilize multicore CPUs, then Intel is still better in single core performance! But AMD is closing in!

Absolutely agree!!! Intel is disgusting, as you said! I would buy AMD and will in future probably. I just think Intel is still better for gaming ATM. And i didn't want to risk higher input lag. Maybe something will happen next year, as USA goverment is weighting in on big anti-competitive corporations...

I had another reasons too:
- AMD has a chipset fan, instead of passive cooling. And who knows about its quality? It can be some cheap crap and die all of the sudden. Also on some motherboards, it is blocked by a GPU. E.g. you use mini-ITX, there is not much of a choice between multiple PCI-E slots!
- Some AMD motherboards suffer from insanely long boot times (30 second +)

RamenRider said:

And the reason why I use AMD Gpus was because I found the Nvidia drivers nvlddmkm had always high DPC latency.

I don't have currently any DPC latency spikes on my Geforce 2070 Super. Maybe 200us max sometimes, don't know what is causing it! I heard on sound-production forums: that not everyone has high DPC latency on Nvidia cards. However, if you wanna go for a certainty: AMD GPU is way to go! They have worse drivers tho. There was a bug, users couldn't use more then 60hz monitor. And it wasn't fixed long time! This is more of a concern for me. If it works in the first place. But Nvidia had bug, it could destroy your GPU, but I don't install new drivers and wait at least 2 weeks to see about issues!

Also DLSS is game changer! Tho AMD is working on deep-learning of its own. But who knows, if it will match DLSS. It is very uncertain. Also Microsoft-ML, or how it calls, has huge potential - i heard. But it doesn't get much attention. So who knows, whether or not, it will be relevant someday... So picking GPU right now is huge dilemma and coinflipp!

BTW i have currently i5 9600KF, i bought it in sale for 250$. And it can handle even 3080 without bottlenecks, even on stock. Maybe some in CPU heavy games. It also works great in old games, which don't utilize multi-core well!

CountMike · 25 Dec 2020

AMD has a chipset fan only on some x570 MBs, b550 don't. Quality of fan varies with MB manufacturers, some are even adjustable and/or being able to turn them off. Anyway, those are small fans that should last as long as any other types and sizes or longer.
MS has patched W10 for Ryzen last year and new Ryzen has algorithms to assign load to cores without help from OS, can also switch to CCIs and CCXs as a group. Waiting for MS to do that would be futile.
Most of CPUs with 6 or more cores can run with top GPUs without so called bottleneck. R5 5600x for instance is just as good at gaming as R7 5800x or even R9 chips. R5 3600x also just as good as 39XXx.

empleat · 26 Dec 2020

CountMike said:

AMD has...

Yeah they vary by a manufacturer, but can you even find, who is behind x fan on y motherboard? Before you buy it?

If you turn fan off, won't chipset overheat? Some motherboards have problem with that!

Yeah it's great that MS patched AMD, but AMD has worse support that Intel and always gets patches like year later than Intel. What if there will be a new issue. AMD will be boycotted...

It is problems all the time with computers, i am glad that it mainly works...

CountMike · 26 Dec 2020

empleat said:

Yeah they vary by a manufacturer, but can you even find, who is behind x fan on y motherboard? Before you buy it?

If you turn fan off, won't chipset overheat? Some motherboards have problem with that!

Yeah it's great that MS patched AMD, but AMD has worse support that Intel and always gets patches like year later than Intel. What if there will be a new issue. AMD will be boycotted...

It is problems all the time with computers, i am glad that it mainly works...

While I had R5 1600x and R7 1700x I run W7 in dual boot and already at that time W10 run better. How much credit should MS be given for that I don't know but with W10 starting with 18xx there were some improvements for Ryzen. After I put 2700x, W7 became practically unusable so I figured to put W7 license to better use on AMD FX 6350 system eventually updated to W10.
Now, with Zen3, MS support became a moot point. Personally I can't see what MS could do for it any more. Actually that may not be entirely true, 10 Insider dev version seems to give slightly better CPU benchmark but at same time 3D GPU has some major problems despite same drivers in both. That's on same machine so it's easy to compare.

empleat · 06 Jan 2022

How is possible 111k people viewed this and no one posted any suggestions for tweaks UUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Also check ideas/questions section: I had some ideas and questions to ask...

MaloK · 09 Jan 2022

Hi @empleat, That's a very good collection you build... I have a little correction to submit in "SSD tweaks"...

DisablePagingExecutive must be set to 1 instead of 0 to prevent paging of kernel files.

TairikuOkami · 09 Jan 2022

empleat said:

How is possible 111k people viewed this and no one posted any suggestions for tweaks

Because people are looking for magic, enable this, disable that and gain 100% performance boost.
Tweaks are not meant to do that, they are designed to polish, to prevent lags, stuttering and such.

solarstarshines · 09 Jan 2022

TairikuOkami said:

Because people are looking for magic, enable this, disable that and gain 100% performance boost.
Tweaks are not meant to do that, they are designed to polish, to prevent lags, stuttering and such.

Exactly all that for a extra 2fps and some ms that don't matter.
The best tweak is to use quality parts and keep everything within 2Gens of use
Proper scaled Ram /Proper CPU /Proper use of Bios functions for Up-clocking Ram Tweaking and Power Management go hand and hand.
All the tweaking in the OS will lead to other issues Windows 10 and 11 are already lite anyway if you choose to keep certain features off

CountMike · 09 Jan 2022

empleat said:

How is possible 111k people viewed this and no one posted any suggestions for tweaks UUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Also check ideas/questions section: I had some ideas and questions to ask...

Well, since you insist I have some advice on hardware side but if you could fix some typos.
XPM, should be XMP (Extreme Memory Profile).
RBG, should be RGB (Red Green Blue)
Some people that are not familiar with those terms could be looking for something that doesn't exist.
OK, here's tip for HW.
Pay attention to COOLING. There are many ready made PCs but also "home grown" with terrible cooling solutions which also includes cases, there's precious small number of PC desktop cases with good air flow, some really atrocious. Bunch of unused spaces/mounts for fans but air flow interrupted by various obstacles or glass fronts with minimal openings for air inlet.
Factory OEM CPU coolers are mostly enough for basic cooling at near idle.
GPUs are usually tucked in places where they get little fresh air so routing air flow in the case so it envelops GPU should be taken care of.
RAM has mostly enough heat sink and are close to CPU coolers with down draft and towers but with water coolers they get very little air and most newer RAM also has own sensors although BIOS has no amenities to show it.
VRM (Voltage Regulator Module). Although most are rated for 100c + should also be included in cooling as they could also throttle down on voltages if (over)heated. That problem is usually acute with cheap and some times small format motherboards. You just can't expect some 4+2 VRM to supply enough clean power to some 12 or 16 core CPU and that's just best case, worst case scenario is to blow up or burn and take with it who knows which component as all power to all elements is supplied by it.
Why is all of that important ?
Well.... al new CPUs, GPUs and even SSDs (specially NVMe drives have some temperature limits over which they would first limit the boost frequencies than throttle general frequency and if high enough shut it down to prevent damage. They have built in algorithms to govern performance mostly by package and/or core temps. Not all of them work in same way or have same limits but temps feature a lot in obtaining best performance.
Let me name some examples. AMD Ryzen, up to and including 3000 series (Zen2+) are specially sensitive to temps. UP to 70c they would allow for full boost frequency (highest on one core and corresponding frequency on other cores). It's 65c for earlier models and up to 90c for 5000 (Zen3) series.
Example of my R7 3700x, for every 1c over 70c, boost will drop from maximal 4.4GHz by 50 to 100MHz, at 75c it will not pass 4GHz and drop to 3,6GHz at 85c. Shut down temp is 90c. That can make a pretty large dent in CPU and overall performance. I understand newest Intel Alder lake is similarly configured.
As I said before, OEM CPU coolers (where supplied) are nowhere close to letting full CPU potential shine trough, so investing in good aftermarket cooler can go far in obtaining best possible performance. None of those system/Windows settings can substitute for hardware lag induced by high temps.
Pertaining specially to Ryzen (all models) and some Intel CPUs, memory (RAM) speed including latency has a lot influence on CPU performance alone and with it overall system performance.
Again an example of my Ryzen 3700x (although same as my earlier ones starting with 1600x ) shows 15 to 20%+ better CPU scores with same RAM set to 3600NHz, Cl16 as opposed to base RAM frequency of 2133MHz, Cl14.
All together, after investing some 80 bucks(US) in a 360mm AiO cooler and 3 case coolers as well as setting XMP (slightly modified) to present RAM, I got up to some 50% better overall system performance over using OEM cooler and leaving RAM at it's base settings.