Windows 10: Optane, the poor man's SSD

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  1.    09 Dec 2017 #31

    We had to do something while we wait for your usage report.

    What are your findings so far?
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  2.    09 Dec 2017 #32

    Hi,

    win10er said: View Post
    32mb optane is overkill unless you are a heavy duty multitasking guru on crack. I paid $25 for mine and it only works with i3, i5 and i7 with 7th gen Kabylake processor as of now. You don't have to have a Dell or Intel motherboard though.
    No it won't work as a small ssd, it is mostly a cache that is tied in with the drive with the OS on it and if you replace that drive it won't boot unless you first deactivate Optane. It's like the main drive with a big accelerator on it. If it takes hold they will probably expand the possibilities.
    Ok, so keeping on topic, the information is just plain wrong. Nothing personal, just correcting.

    You can use these modules as a mini ssd. At least I'm sure you can on the appropiate systems. So yes, you can install the OS on it, you can double, triple or even quadruple the 32 GB modules using an adapter card and so on.
    Although I'm sure you can't use it as a caching module on systems that do not support such use, I am pretty much certain you can still use the modules as plain SSD drives in such systems.

    I do agree @vram should have opened his own thread but it's still somewhat pertinent to this thread even though not everyone might understand how.

    With all due respect,
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  3.    09 Dec 2017 #33

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,



    Ok, so keeping on topic, the information is just plain wrong. Nothing personal, just correcting.

    You can use these modules as a mini ssd. At least I'm sure you can on the appropiate systems. So yes, you can install the OS on it, you can double, triple or even quadruple the 32 GB modules using an adapter card and so on.
    Although I'm sure you can't use it as a caching module on systems that do not support such use, I am pretty much certain you can still use the modules as plain SSD drives in such systems.

    I do agree @vram should have opened his own thread but it's still somewhat pertinent to this thread even though not everyone might understand how.

    With all due respect,
    No you are totally wrong, they are never a mini ssd, you can't double and triple 32gb ones and the 32 is overkill for 90% of users, and no you can't use it on any other systems than I specified (for any reason.) Do your homework before you start posting.
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  4.    09 Dec 2017 #34

    It might be overkill, but neither are what Iíd consider expensive so Iíd probably spring for the 32Gb version for future proofing.

    How is it performing for you currently?
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  5.    09 Dec 2017 #35

    vram said: View Post
    It might be overkill, but neither are what I’d consider expensive so I’d probably spring for the 32Gb version for future proofing.

    How is it performing for you currently?
    I don't think you would be proofing anything, from what I read only hi end gamers and heavy multitaskers can benefit from the 32gb (but I don't know what you do). Unfortunately the used M.2 module didn't work even though I have all the requirements. The error message meant I didn't have the small space at the end of my OS drive so I even shrunk it a bit. I have to ship it back but this new Dell XPS 8920 is pretty fast anyway.
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  6.    09 Dec 2017 #36

    Use cases/needs can change over time. May not need it now but might 6 months later. There just isnít enough price difference IMO not to get the bigger version.

    I still run a spinner on my main PC, mostly because I need to capacity and honestly, Iím too lazy to switch it over. Got a 275GB m.2 awaiting install as an OS drive but just havenít felt like doing it.

    Hope you get your Optane setup up and running soon.
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  7.    10 Dec 2017 #37

    Hi,

    win10er said: View Post
    No you are totally wrong, they are never a mini ssd, you can't double and triple 32gb ones and the 32 is overkill for 90% of users, and no you can't use it on any other systems than I specified (for any reason.) Do your homework before you start posting.
    Sorry to say so but you are wrong again. It seems your mind is set to using these as caching devices only.
    That is the intended purpose for these but they can be used as tiny SSDs and can be spanned or configured in raid 0 as well to create a larger drive.

    Cheers,
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  8.    10 Dec 2017 #38

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,



    Sorry to say so but you are wrong again. It seems your mind is set to using these as caching devices only.
    That is the intended purpose for these but they can be used as tiny SSDs and can be spanned or configured in raid 0 as well to create a larger drive.

    Cheers,
    You are correct fdegrove. They for sure can be setup in an R0 array and used for OS drive. I have a buddy with 3 of the 32 Gb versions in R0 for OS drive.
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  9.    10 Dec 2017 #39

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,



    Sorry to say so but you are wrong again. It seems your mind is set to using these as caching devices only.
    That is the intended purpose for these but they can be used as tiny SSDs and can be spanned or configured in raid 0 as well to create a larger drive.

    Cheers,
    You are wrong again, while they can be used as a tiny ssd by itself they don't recommend it (read up) and they must be tied to the drive with the os on it. They don't affect more than 1 drive so a mirrored second drive should work with it. Only part of the OS is in the Optane module, what can you do with 32gb max by itself? Really?
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  10.    10 Dec 2017 #40

    doorules said: View Post
    You are correct fdegrove. They for sure can be setup in an R0 array and used for OS drive. I have a buddy with 3 of the 32 Gb versions in R0 for OS drive.
    So he has 3 m.2 slots? This is really getting far fetched.
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