Windows 10: Optane, the poor man's SSD

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  1.    07 Dec 2017 #11

    When it was being marketed as a replacement for NAND flash, I was excited. Now that itís just another Intel only, product segmented within intelís own product line, limited use peice if hardware, I couldnít care less.

    When Intel decides to open it up, provide useable amounts of storage, Iíll be interested again.
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  2.    07 Dec 2017 #12

    Hi,

    When Intel decides to open it up, provide useable amounts of storage, Iíll be interested again.
    That's already the case. Look for Intel P900 ssd.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by fdegrove; 07 Dec 2017 at 12:32.
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  3.    07 Dec 2017 #13

    Lol how much is it currently. Realistically priced?
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  4.    07 Dec 2017 #14

    Hi,

    Unfortunately they're still horridly expensive. The 280Gb model (the smallest) is going for roughly 390 Euro in Europe.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by fdegrove; 07 Dec 2017 at 14:03.
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  5.    07 Dec 2017 #15

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,

    Unfortunately they're still horridly expensive. The 290Gb model (the smallest) is going for roughly 390 Euro in Europe.

    Cheers,
    Hi,
    Will this work on a laptop with M2 SSD slot with PCIe3.0 x2?
    Intel 16GB Optane Memory - M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 NVMe 3D XPoint (MEMPEK1W016GAXT) | BT Shop
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  6.    07 Dec 2017 #16

    Hi,

    Optane memory used as a caching device will only work if the motherboard supports it. Namely Kabylake and higher up.
    As a system drive I suppose it would work in a system with a M2 2280 compatible slot supporting PCIe 3.0 x4.
    But please verify with the seller before buying as I'm assuming here.
    If it works, I'd recommend going for the 32 Gb module as 16Gb is just too small to install W10 on.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by fdegrove; 07 Dec 2017 at 14:43.
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  7.    07 Dec 2017 #17

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,

    Optane memory used as a cacheing device will only work if the motherboard supports it. Namely Kabylake and higher up.
    As a system drive I suppose it would work in a system with a M2 2280 compatible slot supporting PCIe 3.0 x4.
    But please verify with the seller before buying as I'm assuming here.
    If it works, I'd recommend going for the 32 Gb module as 16Gb is ust too small to install W10 on.

    Cheers,
    Thanks for the information, I am interested in learning about these Optane SSD/memory, hence my inquiry.
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  8.    07 Dec 2017 #18

    Hi,

    You're welcome.
    Apparently a 2 lane PCIe slot suffices.
    Which could be fun as that would actually make it feasable to run 2 Optane modules off a PCIe card supporting two M2 slots.
    Just thinking out loud here...:)

    https://hothardware.com/reviews/inte...ormance?page=2

    The link above tests the Optane module with W10 OS installed on it. The test system is fully compatible but as said, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work as such on other, so called "non-compatible with Optane" systems as well. Not as a caching device of course but as a small 32 Gb SSD.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by fdegrove; 07 Dec 2017 at 15:09.
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  9.    08 Dec 2017 #19

    32mb optane is overkill unless you are a heavy duty multitasking guru on crack. I paid $25 for mine and it only works with i3, i5 and i7 with 7th gen Kabylake processor as of now. You don't have to have a Dell or Intel motherboard though.
    No it won't work as a small ssd, it is mostly a cache that is tied in with the drive with the OS on it and if you replace that drive it won't boot unless you first deactivate Optane. It's like the main drive with a big accelerator on it. If it takes hold they will probably expand the possibilities.
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  10.    08 Dec 2017 #20

    Iím still trying to understand why modern HDDs donít have internal RAID and a SODIMM slot? Understandably, these would represent the performance end of the product line, but itíd probably be worth paying for.
    Last edited by vram; 08 Dec 2017 at 12:59.
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