can not boot with extra hdds connected ?

Caledon Ken · 14 Nov 2017

Okay, but to clarify. If you have your SSD connected and this HDD only the SSD shows in BIOS as a connected drive.

Then you boot and if the HDD is connected the boot stops.

Is this correct?

trinaz · 16 Nov 2017

Well....serious progress....my system now boots past the bios screen, shows all my drives.... and into Windows normally...which also shows all my drives and I can access....copy, paste, format etc without any issues which is much welcomed new !!

One new issue tho....whether I cold start our restart... it takes a LONG time to get to the Windows splash screen. From the time I cold start or restart its between 7 min 55 seconds and 8 min 40 seconds !!

However...everything works consistently and all drives remain listed and accessible...just takes a long time to get there ?

Any ideas on what would be slowing down the boot into windows that much...and/or how to trouble shoot this issue ? Windows used to startup within seconds of the bios screen closing ?

Thanks...TiminAz

sdowney717 · 17 Nov 2017

trinaz said:

Well....serious progress....my system now boots past the bios screen, shows all my drives.... and into Windows normally...which also shows all my drives and I can access....copy, paste, format etc without any issues which is much welcomed new !!

One new issue tho....whether I cold start our restart... it takes a LONG time to get to the Windows splash screen. From the time I cold start or restart its between 7 min 55 seconds and 8 min 40 seconds !!

However...everything works consistently and all drives remain listed and accessible...just takes a long time to get there ?

Any ideas on what would be slowing down the boot into windows that much...and/or how to trouble shoot this issue ? Windows used to startup within seconds of the bios screen closing ?

Thanks...TiminAz

I was having the same problem with a 3tb drive partitioned as GPT in win7, win10 would gasp and throw fits with it plugged in, would even give "Driver Power State Failure" messages, then reboots would be super long time.

I finally resolved by booting linux mint liveusb, copy the data off the drive, and partitioned again as gpt and formatted ntfs.

Then all these issues went away with win10. Win7 never had boot problems, but could not use the drive if it had been setup in win10, and win10 had serious issues if the drive had been set up in win7.

Caledon Ken · 17 Nov 2017

I'm going to bet more than one of your storage devices was once a disk you could boot from. Some installation or BIOS glitch has things confused. Of course sdowney717's comment could also be valid however you didn't mention adding a disk, I think your words were all of a sudden it wouldn't boot with other disks attached. You could have a disk error but you checked that I think.

So let's start with basics. Could you attach all your disks that are normally attached and could you produce and post a screen shot.

Disk Management - How to Post a Screenshot of

Could you also include a short description of what each disk is using the disk numbers in the lower portion of the screen shot. For a quick test, boot with just your primary boot disk connected and time it.

Ken

trinaz · 17 Nov 2017

sdowney717 said:

I was having the same problem with a 3tb drive partitioned as GPT in win7, win10 would gasp and throw fits with it plugged in, would even give "Driver Power State Failure" messages, then reboots would be super long time.

I finally resolved by booting linux mint liveusb, copy the data off the drive, and partitioned again as gpt and formatted ntfs.

Then all these issues went away with win10. Win7 never had boot problems, but could not use the drive if it had been setup in win10, and win10 had serious issues if the drive had been set up in win7.

Thanks so much....turns out all my Sata HDD's were setup in Win 7....the new SSD used for Win 10 setup/install was the only Win 10 minted drive....pretty sure all drives in case (including problem Hitachi drive) were setup and/or formatted...etc...in 7.....but only Hitachi drive has issues...the Western Digital and Maxtor drives are fine

Weird thing is all these problems just recently appeared...couple weeks ago....all was well previously...I think tho there was at least one Windows update prior to these issues starting...have seen some post blaming the last or recent upgrades in 10 for these similar problems.

I recently was able to wipe and reformat the 'Win 7 Hitachi-2 Old Storage' drive which was one of the culprits causing the freezing/sloooow starts and now it's fine. Will copy the other HDD's to my external USB drive and reformat the others as you suggest.

Thank you (and all) very much....TiminAz

sdowney717 · 17 Nov 2017

trinaz said:

Thanks so much....turns out all my Sata HDD's were setup in Win 7....the new SSD used for Win 10 setup/install was the only Win 10 minted drive....pretty sure all drives in case (including problem Hitachi drive) were setup and/or formatted...etc...in 7.....but only Hitachi drive has issues...the Western Digital and Maxtor drives are fine

Weird thing is all these problems just recently appeared...couple weeks ago....all was well previously...I think tho there was at least one Windows update prior to these issues starting...have seen some post blaming the last or recent upgrades in 10 for these similar problems.

I recently was able to wipe and reformat the 'Win 7 Hitachi-2 Old Storage' drive which was one of the culprits causing the freezing/sloooow starts and now it's fine. Will copy the other HDD's to my external USB drive and reformat the others as you suggest.

Thank you (and all) very much....TiminAz

Seems like a windows bug to me. My 3tb problem drive was also Hitachi, but they are excellent drives. Win10 must not like something about the partitioning or formatting and it causes it go into hysterics.

After I got it working it has been great.