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  1.    14 Oct 2017 #1

    WIN CU 1703 doesn't find Toshiba A105 laptop devices


    I think my A105 Satellite is a victum of microsoft's support cutoff of older Toshiba laptops. CU doesn't find some of the laptop's devices. I've managed to get the problem display and USB devices working, but I've not been able to fix or find usable drivers for the ethernet, wireless and SD card reader.

    Has anyone found a solution yet?

    Ethernet : Intel PRO/100 VE
    WiFi: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
    Chipset: Intel 945 Express
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  2.    14 Oct 2017 #2
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    This is a thread from 2016, it may help for the WiFi....
    Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Windows 10
    This isn't a question, it's a solution that worked for me so I thought I would post it pre-emptively!
    I have an old Acer Aspire (32-bit) laptop with an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG adapter from 2008. Having just forced it to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I noticed straight away that the wireless was not working...
    https://communities.intel.com/thread/77854

    If you follow its link to the Intel download page note that it says there's a newer version now.
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  3.    14 Oct 2017 #3

    Thank you. The wireless worked fine after I upgraded from WIN7 to WIN10. It stopped working with the update from 1607 to 1703. I've tried the newer intel driver (19.n) version and an older (17.n) version, but neither one worked. I have not tried an 18.n version. I'll give it a try.
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  4.    15 Oct 2017 #4

    No luck either. I guess the fallback maybe external USB Ethernet and WiFi adapters.

    Maybe I should be asking the question differently: Is anyone using a Satellite A105 with WIN10 1703 and their Intel networking devices work okay? If so what drivers are you using?
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  5.    15 Oct 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwhite1 View Post
    Maybe I should be asking the question differently: Is anyone using a Satellite A105 with WIN10 1703 and their Intel networking devices work okay?
    Not according to Google, as far as I can make out...

    Do you make system images with Macrium or similar? D you have an image of the working Anniversary Update (1607) from before your upgrade to Creators Update (1703)? If so, you could restore it and export your previously working drivers. Then you could try importing them to the current system. If that works, you'd need to disable any further driver updates.

    Backup and Restore Device Drivers in Windows 10
    Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10

    If you don't have a suitable system image available, you could make an image of the system as it is now then try a clean install of 1607. If that has working Ethernet/WiFi, export the drivers, restore your current system then import drivers as above.

    It's still possible to get an ISO for the Anniversary Update direct from Microsoft. Go to Microsoft's Download Windows 10 page using Edge. Now use the F12 Developers Tools and on the Emulation tab set the 'User Agent String' to 'Apple Safari (iPad)'. The page then changes to one offering direct ISO downloads.

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  6.    15 Oct 2017 #6

    Thank you again. I have reverted to 1607. I didn't think of reusing the 1607 drivers on 1703. Good idea.

    My Google searches found problematic issues with circa A105 laptops, but not many. I did find several tech'ie references to 1) the fact that the A105 isn't compatible with WIN10 but can be made to work (as I have in the past), 2) 1703 has removed support for it's drivers, and 3) 1703 has changed the way WIN10 supports the ACIP tables. The internet being what it is, who really knows what to rely on; however, your idea is the best one anyone has come up with so far. Definitely worth a try.
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  7.    15 Oct 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwhite1 View Post
    I have reverted to 1607...
    Oh good, you had a system image. That's a relief. Now you have some breathing space to investigate further. If it turns out 1607 is the highest you can go, then you can hide Features Updates like 1703 from ever installing. Pro's 'defer upgrades' can only hold back the tide for a limited time, but hiding them is a permanent block. I use this on my test machine for each of its earlier system images to stop them upgrading themselves.

    Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
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  8.    15 Oct 2017 #8

    Have you tried these? They worked for me on 1607 Home:

    // Stop ethernet updates
    Change:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost
    From:
    Ethernet DWORD 1
    To:
    Ethernet DWORD 2

    Add key and DWORD subkey:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU
    AUOptions DWORD 2 (Notify for download and notify for install)
    3 (Auto download and notify for install)
    4 (Auto download and schedule the install)
    5 (Allow local admin to choose settings)

    // Stop wireless update
    Settings>Network & Internet>Wifi>Manage known networks
    Select a wifi network
    Click on Properties
    Set Metered Connection: ON
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  9.    15 Oct 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwhite1 View Post
    Have you tried these? They worked for me on 1607 Home...
    Setting a metered connection stops all updates. Yes, it will stop a Features Update, but at the cost of never being able to get any cumulative updates. You cannot pick and choose. Once you click the 'download' button you get when checking for update on a metered connection they all start downloading, including the Features Update.

    Hiding just the Features Update let's you continue to get cumulative updates. Your PC would be on 1607 for as long as the Features Update is hidden, but continue to stay up to date.

    I use my test PC for investigating support questions in this forum, so I don't want to change the registry setting for Windows Update from their defaults. It has images for all versions of Pro from 10240 up to 1709. I want to keep each version up to date. The only way I can check for updates without triggering an upgrade is to hide the Features Update. Pro's 'defer' option only goes so far, as soon as a version becomes Current Branch for Business (or Semi-Annual Channel as it is now known) it is declared as ready for widespread use in organisations and can no longer be deferred.
    Last edited by Bree; 16 Oct 2017 at 00:06.
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  10.    16 Oct 2017 #10

    Yea, you're right. But if you're using a system for which MS has discontinued support, the problem becomes that each time there is a new major update there is also the chance that the new update will crash an older systems they no longer support. The only solution to keep that system functioning is to return it to the prior version that worked. BUT - after that, each time a new cumulative update is issued, the automatic installation process it will again make the system unusable.

    Not to start rumors, but one of the sites I found said that MS is seeing an increasing number of returns to a prior version and has realized the problem; and, they are considering ways to block future updates on systems that cannot be successfully updated. For example, (like in my case) if a system works on 1607 but crashes on 1703, returning it to 1607 will stop future updates to prevent the problem from reocuring. Like I said, don't believe everything you see on the internet.

    In conclusion, I want to give you a special thanks for the role you play in this forum. I cannot tell you how much benefit I get from TenForums and it's people like you who make that all possible. You really do make a difference.
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