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  1. Posts : 1,141
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       #11

    8 - Use : Group Policy > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Updates > Configure automatic updates > 3 Auto download and notify me to install -- Nope , and by the way I believe these settings are not even integrated in Windows 10 but they wouldn't mention on group policy so it wouldn't affect the marketing of it since its their latest product .
    did that , the driver installs silently and an entry is shown in Updates History without any pause or notification or acceptance .
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #12

    As none of the standard techniques work for you, suggest there's something amiss.

    You might need to do an in-place upgrade repair install which keeps all programs and data and most settings and see if that fixes anything for you.

    Unless there's a particular peculiarity about Nvidia updates:
    Windows 10's Automatic Updates For NVidia Drivers Causing Trouble - Slashdot

    - which turns out to be an old story.. note
    Part of the problem seems to stem from the fact that NVidia driver updates are handled not only by Windows Update, but also by NVidia's own update tool. This is something that is quite common with numerous hardware and system manufacturers, and it opens up the possibility of there being a conflict between the two update utilities. If their databases are not perfectly in sync, each could believe it has the most recent version of the driver, resulting in an upgrade loop.
    You say it isn't this:
    NVIDIA Update|NVIDIA
    Note the discussion here:
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...-auto-update-/
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  3. Posts : 1,141
    Windows 10
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       #13

    The question is does the standard techniques work for anybody really ?

    Mind you that apparently its not a system error since I got to find out through fixing tutorials that "Stub" errors are mostly caused by Nvidia faulty drivers and having them replaced is recommended to fix them.

    Also There is a catch , I am as common as so many users where my laptop ships with Windows 8.1 and i received Windows 10 two years ago as an update , and then I managed to recently buy an upgrade serial from Home to Pro version . I was kind of old school thinking that to upgrade to Pro i needed a setup CD/ISO that i would use to do the upgrade then activate via the serial , I downloaded few RTM ISOs and attempted to use them for upgrades but they all gave out incompatibility errors with my version , I had to contact Microsoft where they directed me to use the serial in Activation form rather and thus i received the Pro as a software update that took less than 10 minutes to accomplish . So the problem would be to find a compatible ISO in my case or else my options are down to System Reset ! not unless anybody know a way around .
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  4. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #14

    Hi,
    Like all things win-10 a new build install may revert prior preferences one has made personally might be the most annoying part of using win-10.
    I don't use 10 enough to notice although I have altered the auto driver installing with Brink's tutorial so it seems to work short term at the least.
    I have a host of Brink's .reg files that have to be reapplied lost count actually of exactly how many lol :)
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  5. Posts : 1,141
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Unless there's a particular peculiarity about Nvidia updates:
    Windows 10's Automatic Updates For NVidia Drivers Causing Trouble - Slashdot

    - which turns out to be an old story.. note

    Part of the problem seems to stem from the fact that NVidia driver updates are handled not only by Windows Update, but also by NVidia's own update tool. This is something that is quite common with numerous hardware and system manufacturers, and it opens up the possibility of there being a conflict between the two update utilities. If their databases are not perfectly in sync, each could believe it has the most recent version of the driver, resulting in an upgrade loop.


    You say it isn't this:
    NVIDIA Update|NVIDIA
    Note the discussion here:
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...-auto-update-/
    I hardly set any 3rd party app/program to automatically download updates by the way , Nvidia included , like you see my favorite Nvidia driver the one I started the thread talking about is 1 year old where Nvidia would have kicked in attempting to replace like 20 times already , it all started when Microsoft Update kicked in trying to .
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  6. Posts : 1,141
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #16

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Like all things win-10 a new build install may revert prior preferences one has made personally might be the most annoying part of using win-10.
    I don't use 10 enough to notice although I have altered the auto driver installing with Brink's tutorial so it seems to work short term at the least.
    I have a host of Brink's .reg files that have to be reapplied lost count actually of exactly how many lol :)
    Its because Microsoft keeps changing things as they go , the constant ( updates / build ) changes windows behavior without you noticing , I even recall I had touch pad driver update laying in optional pool of updates and i never considered installing it because 9/10 times I used Microsoft drivers they either glitched or came without essential features . so somehow this driver manage to push through as well as an essential update , so its evident they changed things .
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  7. ThrashZone's Avatar
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    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64
       #17

    Hi,
    In 10 pro not sure which build but they/ ms did add settings to say on a current build for business
    I missed which version of 10 you're using ?
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  8. Posts : 1,141
    Windows 10
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       #18

    windows 10 version 14393 and right now 15063 and going through the loops again
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  9. Posts : 1,141
    Windows 10
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       #19

    here is an update on the situation , so upgrade assistance managed to upgrade me to version 15063 and persist this is latest version despite Microsoft website states there are versions 1607 and 1703 , in all cases apparently solutions like :
    1 - Use : Control Panel > System Properties > Hardware > Device Installation Settings > No (Your Device Might not work as expected) -- Now this option sweet people who recommend it doesn't do any bloody thing , its like microsoft just printed a useless radio button in a form that isn't really linked to anything in the system .

    2 - Use : Registry Setting HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate"ExcludeWUDriversInQ ualityUpdate"=dword:00000001 -- Yep , vanilla , does nothing .

    3 - Use : wushowhide.diagcab to find and hide the update -- Showed me all sorts of blahs but that glitchy driver .
    were still ineffective , but all later Group Policy solutions were effective for the first time to me , researching the site apparently Microsoft acknowledges windows driver updates options were rewind in previous versions of windows :
    Windws updatesWindows 10, version 1607, provides administrators with increased control over updates by changing the update deferral increment from weeks to days. Other changes:

    • Quality Updates can be deferred up to 30 days and paused for 35 days
    • Feature Updates can be deferred up to 180 days and paused for 60 days
    • Update deferrals can be applied to both Current Branch (CB) and Current Branch for Business (CBB)
    • Drivers can be excluded from updates ****
    Now question , why am I two versions behind and assistance persist I am on latest version ?
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  10. f14tomcat's Avatar
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    Multi-boot Windows 10 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #20

    nIGHTmAYOR said:
    here is an update on the situation , so upgrade assistance managed to upgrade me to version 15063 and persist this is latest version despite Microsoft website states there are versions 1607 and 1703 , in all cases apparently solutions like :


    were still ineffective , but all later Group Policy solutions were effective for the first time to me , researching the site apparently Microsoft acknowledges windows driver updates options were rewind in previous versions of windows :


    Now question , why am I two versions behind and assistance persist I am on latest version ?
    @nIGHTmAYOR

    You're not 2 versions behind. Don't confuse the build number (15063) with the version number (1703). You have the latest and greatest. Hold down the WINKEY and press R. Type WINVER and press enter or click OK. You will get this. It is the latest.

    Windows 10 Automatic Driver Updates Hell Corner-2017-09-25_07h07_59.png
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