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  1.    21 Sep 2017 #1
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    Intel 1st generation core processors with win10


    I have a first generation core processor, to be precise, I have the i3 550.
    A long while ago I updated to win10.
    All was fine though one program (ExtremeGammon, backgammon software) didn't work anymore.
    Also today I have troubles with a retro styled video game I bought from steam.
    I started to think my computer might be the problem.
    Both programs I have problems with are graphical.
    I thought maybe I need to update my internal HD graphics of the i3 550.
    But I see the i3 550 is so old that Intel does not support it anymore.

    Does any of you have similar problems?

    When I look for i3 550 drivers they are at latest drivers for win7 , no drivers for win10.
    I could try to use a new graphics driver that is not for my processor, but I don't think that would work, and I assume actually cause a lot trouble.
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  2.    21 Sep 2017 #2
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    The graphics driver [display driver] relates to the display adapter not to the computer's processor.

    You can check for the most up to date display adapter available for your display adapter in

    1 your computer maker's website.

    2 Intel Download Center [do not bother with their automatic Intel driver update utility because that will search then tell you it does not support legacy devices & that you need to search the Intel Download Center instead].

    3 Microsoft update catalog - you have to experiment with the name you search for so start with the full name of the display adapter as given in Device manager and then, if necessary, try shortening it by omitting the full model number [but you will have to browse the search results yourself to ensure you only download & install the correct model]. The Catalog is very useful but it can be perverse - I have seen it fail to find a full model number in its search only for me to find the full model number used in the update's title when I searched using a shortened version of it.

    Denis
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  3.    22 Sep 2017 #3
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    1. Computer was made by a computer store, so that would not work. Even more so because that store, like so many computer stores, went bankrupt.

    2. I guess my display adapter is 'Intel HD Graphics' according to this page Intel® HD Graphics Supported with Intel Core i3 Desktop Processors
    when I click on it I see this page Downloads for Intel® HD Graphics for Previous Generation Intel® Processors
    The latest driver on that page is from 2/19/2013 , but it is for win vista or win7.
    I have win10, there are none for win10? must I use the one for win7, would that work when I use win10?

    3. Here when searching for Intel HD Graphics I get this page.
    Microsoft Update Catalog
    It's a long list and the newest driver (2016) is for Intel HD Graphics 530 not for plain Intel HD Graphics
    The newest I find for plain Intel HD Graphics without any number behind it, is ' Intel Corporation driver update for Intel(R) HD Graphics (from 2016). would this last one be the one I need to use?
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  4.    22 Sep 2017 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Try3 View Post
    The graphics driver [display driver] relates to the display adapter not to the computer's processor.
    Not for PCs that don't have a separate GPU. Intel HD is built into the CPU.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7ender View Post
    When I look for i3 550 drivers they are at latest drivers for win7 , no drivers for win10.
    I could try to use a new graphics driver that is not for my processor, but I don't think that would work, and I assume actually cause a lot trouble.
    I have a 640M processor also with Intel HD graphics (first gen). I get the driver through Windows Update and it is version 8.15.10.2900 from 26-Nov-12. Works fine for me.

    Check the requirements of the game though. Intel HD (and so your i3 550) only support DX10. Many games now require DX11 to install which would be Intel HD3000 minimum. You can't get around that with drivers - it is a hardware issue.
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  5.    22 Sep 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by lx07 View Post
    Check the requirements of the game though. Intel HD (and so your i3 550) only support DX10. Many games now require DX11 to install which would be Intel HD3000 minimum. You can't get around that with drivers - it is a hardware issue.
    Strange, I have DirectX 12 as far as I know.
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  6.    22 Sep 2017 #6
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    lxo7 is correct - Everything I have been writing [including what follows below] assumes that the display adapter exists in its own right & is not built into the CPU.

    You can go to
    - Device manager, {display adapter}, Details tab, Hardware IDs & Compatible IDs
    then compare them to the list of drivers available in the update catalog
    - Click on the Title of each suggested driver, {a separate tab / window opens}, Package details tab, Supported hardware IDs.

    Other than that, all you can do is make a system image & experiment.

    My own computers were also well out of their support period when I installed Windows 10 on them.
    • My old Windows 7 ended up with a mixture of drivers from Windows 7 & 10.
    • My old Windows XP ended up with a mixture of drivers from XP, Vista, Windows 7 & 10.


    Denis
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  7.    22 Sep 2017 #7
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    Unfortunately, that processor is 7 years old with no further support - Intel Core™ i3-550 Processor (4M Cache, 3.20 GHz) Product Specifications

    And yes, unfortunately, there are also no Windows 10 drivers for it as well - Downloads for Intel® Core™ i3-550 Processor (4M Cache, 3.20 GHz)

    I think your best bet would be to purchase a dedicated GPU for that system. However, I have to wonder if that system is as old as that processor, and whether it will even support one of the newer GPU's today. It would help if you listed the system specs of said PC.
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  8.    22 Sep 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by lx07 View Post
    Many games now require DX11 to install which would be Intel HD3000 minimum. You can't get around that with drivers - it is a hardware issue.
    There are still many games out there that still run on the DX9/10 API, including a lot of today's titles. You just have to read the game requirements. That said, hardware qualification is another issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7ender View Post
    Strange, I have DirectX 12 as far as I know.
    Be aware that though Windows 10 supports DX12, if your GPU or game isn't DX12, you'll only run at lowest DX level. In this case your GPU is only listed as DX10 so that's as high as any game will run provided the game supports up to DX10. DirectX is backwards compatible so it'll allow older DX versions to play.
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  9.    22 Sep 2017 #9
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    The game (Deponia The Complete Journey) has as minimum requirement dx9. So that should not be the problem.

    What I am bothered most about is the backgammon software ExtremeGammon that I had for a very long time that run well on win7 and doesnt work anymore since i have win10. I contacted the programmer a long while ago, and we couldnt find a solution.
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  10.    23 Sep 2017 #10
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    But also, I wonder. Is my problem the video adapter and/or driver. Or could it just be another problem?
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