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  1.    06 Aug 2017 #1
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    SSD: To sleep or not to sleep


    Windows 10 pro (x64) Build 15063.483 (RS2), 2 internal ssd's, 2 internal hdd's, 16g ram, i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz

    Up until recently, for over a year I was having a miserable time dealing with random system freezes and not waking up from sleep (no signal, had to manually shut down and reboot), even tho I had all functions related to sleep/hibernation disabled.

    It turns out my cpu was defective. Now that it has been replaced, I felt comfortable going back to using sleep mode, and for the past 3 week everything has been fine.

    Until today, when something strange happened. I turned on the monitor, and it showed "no signal", which is typically what happens in sleep mode, but nothing happened when I rattled the mouse, or when I momentarily touched the button

    I eventually did what I thought would result in a manual reboot, firmly pressing on the power button for several seconds until the backlight on the button went off, at which time I "assumed" it was rebooting.

    But instead, it went to my lock screen, and everything was still running (browser etc.), just as as it would when coming out of sleep.

    This is my current settings
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    I have since disabled sleep, so I will have to wait and see what happens next.

    One question I have, is sleep necessary with an SSD?

    Also, what are these settings about
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    They seem to be redundant and contradict the other settings.

    thanks
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  2.    06 Aug 2017 #2

    Sleep isn't really meant for desktops, it's more for laptops and mobile devices. I have mine set to high performance in power profile and turn monitor off after so many minutes inactive. If I'm not using the computer for an extended period like two hours and I've not set it to do anything while I'm away, then I just turn it off. It only takes two seconds to boot so its not really much of a hassle.

    This is how I have my advanced settings set but I don't have any hard drives on here:

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    I was reading an anecdote today where company employees thought 15 minute boot time was normal!
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  3.    06 Aug 2017 #3
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    Windows 10

    My boot time from a cold start to lock screen is about 20 sec, then 10 sec for it to sign me in (bypassed password) and about a minute to load my startup programs. 2 seconds to boot seems like the impossible dream, but I can always hope . . . .
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  4.    06 Aug 2017 #4
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    I use sleep on my Desktop. I want to conserve energy. The only way I can wake mine up is by pressing the power button. If you have your hard drive turned of and turn on the monitor you won't see a signal.
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  5.    06 Aug 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
    Sleep isn't really meant for desktops, it's more for laptops and mobile devices. I have mine set to high performance in power profile and turn monitor off after so many minutes inactive.
    Works for me. That's how I've always had it have it set.[/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
    This is how I have my advanced settings set but I don't have any hard drives on here:

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    Thanks. The hdd's are strictly data. I also turned off "Allow hybrid sleep"

    I'd still like to know why that sleep incident occurred today tho.

    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
    I was reading an anecdote today where company employees thought 15 minute boot time was normal!
    I cant decide whether I want to laugh or cry
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  6.    06 Aug 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josey Wales View Post
    I use sleep on my Desktop. I want to conserve energy. The only way I can wake mine up is by pressing the power button. If you have your hard drive turned of and turn on the monitor you won't see a signal.
    Yes, it's normal to see "no signal" under those circumstances, but until today, a simple wiggle of the mouse or keyboard punch did the job for me, and as I posted earlier, the sleep button was disabled
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  7.    06 Aug 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
    Sleep isn't really meant for desktops, it's more for laptops and mobile devices.
    That is not exactly correct. Windows sleep is meant for desktops. It's a way to place them in a low power consuming mode while allowing for instant return to full power. The OS state is maintained in RAM so power is required to maintain the RAM (and to power USB devices that are set to wake the computer), but most of the other hardware is turned off or placed in a low power consumption state. Hibernation is meant for laptops, notebooks, and netbooks because it saves the state of the OS to the HDD and then shuts the computer completely off. This allows for a faster power on experience, but does not continue to use battery power when off as the sleep state would do. Usually the power button is required to be pressed to resume from hibernation.
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  8.    06 Aug 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitpzyxmsir View Post
    Yes, it's normal to see "no signal" under those circumstances, but until today, a simple wiggle of the mouse or keyboard punch did the job for me, and as I posted earlier, the sleep button was disabled
    There is a setting to have it wake by mouse movement.
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  9.    06 Aug 2017 #9

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    That is not exactly correct. Windows sleep is meant for desktops. It's a way to place them in a low power consuming mode while allowing for instant return to full power. The OS state is maintained in RAM so power is required to maintain the RAM (and to power USB devices that are set to wake the computer), but most of the other hardware is turned off or placed in a low power consumption state. Hibernation is meant for laptops, notebooks, and netbooks because it saves the state of the OS to the HDD and then shuts the computer completely off. This allows for a faster power on experience, but does not continue to use battery power when off as the sleep state would do. Usually the power button is required to be pressed to resume from hibernation.
    I watch a youtuber whose been in the business 25 years and he frequently states that hibernation is not really for desktops. I still stand by my statement that its better to turn the machine off when not in use.
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  10.    06 Aug 2017 #10
    Join Date : Jun 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    That is not exactly correct. Windows sleep is meant for desktops. It's a way to place them in a low power consuming mode while allowing for instant return to full power. The OS state is maintained in RAM so power is required to maintain the RAM (and to power USB devices that are set to wake the computer), but most of the other hardware is turned off or placed in a low power consumption state.
    Thank you. Agree.
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