does Samsung 960 EVO support Asus Z87 Deluxe Moth. with i7-4770k ?

even If we boot M.2 via PCIe using adapter

then we have to install software-driver to use such SSD at full throttle
since it is mention on Samsung , Toshiba and other website
without Samsung's Magician software 960 EVO and 960 Pro card will only reach to 520-600 MB speed only
such speed can be easily achieved by Samsung 850 Pro via SATA port without software

so I and Swarfega want such expensive PCIe adapter power M.2 SSD on Z87 Motherboard
with full speed
Manufacturers MAGICIAN software must detect and install it on Win 10 PRO , i7-4770k , Z87 motherboard high end

those manufacturers must let us install MAGICIA spftware on Z87 m\board with i7-4770k
samsung says it support M.2 SSD from HASWELL REFRESH Intel processors
but they also didnot mention about PCIe SATA SSD M.2

is there is anyone who test it PCIe (M.2 SSD) on 4th generation intel HASWELL processors

swarfega said:

My z87 motherboard does not have a physical m.2 slot.

here is proof from Z87 Deluxe Motherboard manual from ASUS
it support booting from PCIE slot



i m contacting ASUS support and Samsung
to final Evo 960 Pro

sygnus21 said:

Be aware that If you want to use an NVMe drive like that of the Samsung 950 Pro, you'll need an NVMe adapter connected to a PCIE port. This will cause the NVMe drive to run at the slower speed of the PCIE port.

As far as I know, there is no such thing as an NVMe port. NVMe drives run on regular PCI-E interfaces. The M.2 slot is just a different physical form factor for PCI-E.

High-end (expensive) NVMe SSDs mount in regular PCI-E slots. That's particularly true for drives intended for servers.

see this its true NVME necessity in adapters

HYPER M.2 X4 MINI CARD | Motherboard Accessories | ASUS United Kingdom




people only buy adapters carefully
NVMe must be mention in it on adapters
otherwise RAPID Mode may not work , i think so

cheers

Hi,

sygnus21 said:

True, to a point but NVMe drives still require an M.2 slot. That M.2 port runs at PCIE Gen 3 x4, faster than a regular PCIE port, up to 32Gb/s.

If the Mobo has a PCIe slot that is Gen 3.0 and supports 4 lanes or more then it does not make any difference whether you connect the NVMe drive to the M.2 slot or mount it via an adaptor in the proper PCIe slot.
In fact, coolingwise you're likely better of going for a passively cooled adaptor.


I have a Patriot NVMe drive that heats the entire PC, not energy efficient at all as it runs at 60 degrees C even when it's just idling. On top of that it is cooled, without it it idles at over 70 degrees C.
Guess I'm going to stick it on an Aquacomputer card which comes with impressive cooling and outstanding quality.

Cheers,

sygnus21 said:

True, to a point but NVMe drives still require an M.2 slot. That M.2 port runs at PCIE Gen 3 x4, faster than a regular PCIE port, up to 32Gb/s.

Sorry, no. There are NVMe drives intended for regular PCI-E slots. The ones for servers may not be available at all in M.2.

Here's an example:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-aic-20nm.html

(First Intel consumer grade NVMe SSD. Interface is PCI-E X4, gen 3.)

The chipset and BIOS must support NVMe in order for that mode to function, even though you can insert such a card in older X4, X8, or X16 slots. I'm not sure, but I believe that an NVME SSD can operate on a non-NVMe board. I wouldn't be surprised if the performance loss was trivial (for non-server applications).

I'm not sure why you say that an M.2 Gen 3 X4 interface is faster than a regular PCI-E slot. They are the same (if Gen 3 X4). Same specs.

If you have the slots, a PCI-E NVMe card (not M.2) would be preferable if you intend to make heavy use of it. The cooling on the M.2 cards isn't the best, so thermal throttling may occur to keep the card from overheating.