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  1.    16 Jan 2018 #891

    Thanks, Cliff. Grabbed the file from your OneDrive share. Much-appreciated! Kari says you helped him troubleshoot an activation issue with his recent 17074 meltdown. Thanks for that, too! ;-)
    --Ed--

    [NOTE: for those who might not be able to grab Magician 5.2.0 from Cliff's OneDrive link which expires on 1/17/18, it's available at MajorGeeks now on their "What's New" page for today. Here's that link: Samsung SSD Magician 5.2. Unlike Cliff's link, this one has no expiration date that I know of. HTH!
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  2.    16 Jan 2018 #892

    Thank you. Really appreciate it.
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       16 Jan 2018 #893

    EdTittel said: View Post
    Thanks, Cliff. Grabbed the file from your OneDrive share. Much-appreciated! Kari says you helped him troubleshoot an activation issue with his recent 17074 meltdown. Thanks for that, too! ;-)
    --Ed--

    [NOTE: for those who might not be able to grab Magician 5.2.0 from Cliff's OneDrive link which expires on 1/17/18, it's available at MajorGeeks now on their "What's New" page for today. Here's that link: Samsung SSD Magician 5.2. Unlike Cliff's link, this one has no expiration date that I know of. HTH!
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    Thank you. Really appreciate it.
    You're welcome:)
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       17 Jan 2018 #894

    I didn't see any real performance gains using Magician 5.1 or earlier versions, so I didn't bother with it.
    I'll have to give this software another try, to see if I notice anything.
    Thanks you guys, for providing the download links. Click image for larger version. 

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       17 Jan 2018 #895

    Geosammy said: View Post
    I didn't see any real performance gains using Magician 5.1 or earlier versions, so I didn't bother with it.
    I'll have to give this software another try, to see if I notice anything.
    Thanks you guys, for providing the download links. Click image for larger version. 

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    It's not about performance gains for me, it's about keeping the SSD controllers firmware updated.
    With, all the ongoing work Microsoft is doing with Windows 10, and the changes they make to the kernel, and BIOS updates because of the latest security threats, it is important to keep your SSDs firmware updated, doubly so, if you use encryption.
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  6.    17 Jan 2018 #896

    To Cliff's post (#895) about keeping software and firmware current, I can only say "Amen!" I'd also like to observe that, for whatever reason, even after a new Magician version comes out, previous versions continue to blithely assert they're up-to-date. I think his point is that the only safe way to get the most current firmware is to be running the most current software. I endorse this proposition, too!
    --Ed--
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       17 Jan 2018 #897

    Cliff S said: View Post
    It's not about performance gains for me, it's about keeping the SSD controllers firmware updated.
    With, all the ongoing work Microsoft is doing with Windows 10, and the changes they make to the kernel, and BIOS updates because of the latest security threats, it is important to keep your SSDs firmware updated, doubly so, if you use encryption.
    I guess I'm a bit confused?
    Is the Magician program considered firmware; I thought that firmware was something different?
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  8.    17 Jan 2018 #898

    No, you're right: Magician is software. But it uses built-in intelligence to talk to Samsung servers to find out about (and manage updates to) firmware. Because older versions of the program appear to be WRONG about being current, it's not unreasonable to speculate that they might also be wrong about firmware, too. I strongly believe that's why @Cliff recommended users keep Magician current, and why I went on to endorse his recommendation myself. Does that make things any clearer? Gosh! I hope so. Thanks for asking,
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       17 Jan 2018 #899

    EdTittel said: View Post
    No, you're right: Magician is software. But it uses built-in intelligence to talk to Samsung servers to find out about (and manage updates to) firmware. Because older versions of the program appear to be WRONG about being current, it's not unreasonable to speculate that they might also be wrong about firmware, too. I strongly believe that's why @Cliff recommended users keep Magician current, and why I went on to endorse his recommendation myself. Does that make things any clearer? Gosh! I hope so. Thanks for asking,
    --Ed--
    My question is, can I still have up to date firmware for my Samsung SSD, without having to install this software?
    Or does the firmware update depend on having this program installed?
    Another question is, if I install Magician and disable it from starting. Will this hinder any of the firmware, or maybe I have it all wrong about what this program is and isn't?
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       17 Jan 2018 #900

    Geosammy said: View Post
    My question is, can I still have up to date firmware for my Samsung SSD, without having to install this software?
    Or does the firmware update depend on having this program installed?
    Another question is, if I install Magician and disable it from starting. Will this hinder any of the firmware, or maybe I have it all wrong about what this program is and isn't?
    To update the firmware without Magician is a PITA, as you need to create a boot disk to do it.
    http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...al_English.pdf
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