Samsung Magician

sygnus21 · 07 Jun 2017

MPSAN said:

OK, all went well and I am now on EXM04B6Q. I did turn off Rapid Mode before the update. It is back on now. I did not expect the system to power down. I thought it would just restart, but all seems OK now.

See... real easy. No issues. Now you can relax and enjoy

Peace

sygnus21 · 07 Jun 2017

fdegrove said:

Hi,

I'm aware of that but leaving unused partitioned spaced on the drive achieves the same thing. The drive's controller knows it has empty cells available and that's all it needs. Hence my comments in my previous posting.

Cheers,

I say again, I see no reason for a normal home user to overprovision their SSD drives unless moving massive amounts of - such as running a server or data center. Normal everyday usage (to me) does not require overprovisioning. And to be reminded, overprovisioning comes at the cost of storage space.

That said, your PC, run it how you like.

Peace

MPSAN · 07 Jun 2017

sygnus21 said:

See... real easy. No issues. Now you can relax and enjoy

Peace

Well, sort of. Now I need to update my wife's new system I built with the same SSD installed. She is on Magician 5.0..

fdegrove · 07 Jun 2017

Hi,

sygnus21 said:

I say again, I see no reason for a normal home user to overprovision their SSD drives unless moving massive amounts of - such as running a server or data center. Normal everyday usage (to me) does not require overprovisioning. And to be reminded, overprovisioning comes at the cost of storage space.

That said, your PC, run it how you like.

Peace

I've been trying to convince him not to use extra OP remember ? LOL.

Cheers,

karadjgne · 07 Jun 2017

I'm wondering, since the Creators update, would there be a reason I can't get Samsung magician to work at all. Tried installs as admin for 4.4, 4.9.7, 5.0, 5.1 and get the same results, even when trying to run in compatability mode.
Magician starts, I get a 3x4 screen saying its looking up driver info, and that's it. Never gets any further. Check task manager, its listed as running 32bit app, but cpu usage is 0%. Called Samsung, they said its compatable with 10, guess I have an issue with windows. Anyone have a clue?

840pro 128Gb latest firmware installed.

sygnus21 · 07 Jun 2017

Your issue is somewhere else as most of us here is running Creator's update with Magician without issue. Samsung is right, there is no issue (where compatibility is concerned).

Are you trying to install the correct version - There's a consumer and enterprise version. Unless you have an enterprise drive, you should be installing the consumer version - Tools & Software

BTW how full is your drive? How much data is on it?

karadjgne · 07 Jun 2017

Running the consumer edition, the option with the 3, not the 5.
Right now I've got somewhere around 40Gb free on that 128, which is actually a 15Gb improvement since the update. SM wasn't the only program affected, so far most work fine, but a few just needed updating to the newest version to get them to work right. I do know there was some changes done, things like superfetch, prefetcher and indexing were all turned back on, when before update I had them disabled.

sygnus21 · 07 Jun 2017

karadjgne said:

I do know there was some changes done, things like superfetch, prefetcher and indexing were all turned back on, when before update I had them disabled.

Some things get reset when a major update is installed so nothing surprising there.

Anyway I've no idea what your issue is but Magician compatibility with the latest Windows version isn't one of them.

karadjgne · 07 Jun 2017

Seems to be looking that way. Thanks anyways for the replies.

TxGowan · 11 Jun 2017

While I am happy to see everyone here lately hasn't had any problems with firmware updates, I have.

On Friday, I turned on my PC and it told me there was an update for Samsung Magician. I dutifully installed it and ran it after the reboot. It informed me that there were firmware updates for my 256GB 850 EVO and my 512GB 850 PRO.

I had RAPID enabled on the EVO drive as it was my boot drive. When I told Magician I wanted to update the firmware, it said it needed to disable RAPID, reboot and continue. I let it follow through with that and then it proceeded to install the firmware update....

...then it told me it couldn't install a firmware update on the EVO drive. I had a vague recollection that those drives weren't firmware-upgradable, but thought perhaps something had changed. It didn't indicate anything else was wrong, only that it couldn't do the update.

I proceeded to update the firmware on the PRO drive with no errors, but Magician did say that it needed to shutdown the system to complete the update.

When I booted my machine after the shutdown, I don't have a boot drive anymore. The drive didn't even show up in BIOS anymore at first. I powered the machine completely down (unplugged from the wall) and tried again. Nothing. I disabled all the drives except the boot drive. Nada. I booted from a USB stick that had a drive utility on it and the drive wasn't even reported. It was like it wasn't there.

So I did some searching on forums and someone said to update the BIOS on my motherboard. I did this via QFlash with no difficulties and when I rebooted again, now I can at least see the drive is still physically there, but it still won't boot. I get a black screen with an underscore cursor blinking at me, forlornly.

At this point, I've made a USB stick with Windows 10 install on it with the hopes that now that I can see the drive, perhaps I can do some type of repair install with the installation media.

Any ideas what went wrong? Any idea if this is going to work? Alternate solutions? Am I going to need to RMA the drive?

TIA for any help or consolation. :)

Samsung Magician

My firmware update didn't go so well...