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  1.    17 Jun 2017 #2571
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    In older versions of the driver and I mean mid-late 2015, when the Realtek HD Audio Manager was not in control panel, it was also not in the control panel and the app is not in the directory where it was supposed to be because there is something in the registry or something that was not installer did not install because it did not completely uninstall. The shortcut in the Start Menu is installed by the installer along with the app. My question was more of if control panel was supposed to have it or not by default since if it was, then there is something wrong with the install and I have to clean the system of the drivers files to make sure none is remaining so it installs correctly.
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  2.    17 Jun 2017 #2572
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    Hi,

    It's still there as far as I'm concerned.

    Cheers,
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  3.    17 Jun 2017 #2573
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    I don't care. I never use the control panel. I leave everything on flat. Equalizing the sound makes it sound worse.
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  4.    17 Jun 2017 #2574
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    Wndows 10 x64 Home version 1709

    Quote Originally Posted by reddice View Post
    I don't care. I never use the control panel. I leave everything on flat. Equalizing the sound makes it sound worse.
    I agree totally with that
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  5.    17 Jun 2017 #2575
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty1 View Post
    In older versions of the driver and I mean mid-late 2015, when the Realtek HD Audio Manager was not in control panel, it was also not in the control panel and the app is not in the directory where it was supposed to be because there is something in the registry or something that was not installer did not install because it did not completely uninstall. The shortcut in the Start Menu is installed by the installer along with the app. My question was more of if control panel was supposed to have it or not by default since if it was, then there is something wrong with the install and I have to clean the system of the drivers files to make sure none is remaining so it installs correctly.
    I've had Realtek HD Audio Manager in the CP for15 years or more and also in the System Tray. I would suggest you download The version from the Realtek downloads page and see if the Audio manager gets installed. Realtek
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  6.    18 Jun 2017 #2576
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    Quote Originally Posted by DooGie View Post
    I've had Realtek HD Audio Manager in the CP for15 years or more and also in the System Tray. I would suggest you download The version from the Realtek downloads page and see if the Audio manager gets installed. Realtek
    15 years but not on the same system. I'm only using Realtek not by choice but because this is how the notebook ships. If it was a desktop, I would have a dedicated high-end sound card anyways. My Audio Manager is installed in the Start Menu, just not in the control panel which was what I was asking if it still exists in the newer versions of the drivers. I remember you update the drivers using device manager so it might be different on your system because all that method will just update the drivers without rebooting or even uninstalling anything. If you went through the setup program, it would first uninstall, reboot and install.
    The thing is the older Win10 builds would allow installing the same version of the drivers on top of the existing one but Creators Update doesn't so my workaround doesn't work which involves running the setup installer a second time on the same windows session it installs the drivers which will fix the missing audio manager. The version from the Realtek downloads page won't make a difference since it seems some of the 2015 posts are missing from this thread so I forgot the exact details of what I did to get the Audio Manager back in control panel or even the start menu if it doesn't install properly since there would be no trace of it in the Control Panel or the Start Menu if that was the case. Besides, the version from the Realtek downloads page are older versions, maybe they stopped putting it in the Control Panel in newer versions because the Control Panel is well hidden in Creators Update anyways, it's not like the earlier Windows 10 builds where Control Panel was easily found by just right clicking the start menu as they are Microsoft seems to be moving everything to settings. I am not using the HD Audio Manager for the equalizer since I hate to have to set that thing each and every time I do a driver update and need to use a piece of paper on the screen to compare with the screen shot of the exact position of the slider as it would have been easier if they just did what is considered standard, by showing the -+dB range since for that part, I have DFX Audio Enhancer which handles the equalizer part. I'm using the HD Audio Manager for other reasons like Default Format for the Digital Output, Default Format and Headphone Virtualization for Speakers, Microphone effect and Default Format for Microphone.
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  7.    18 Jun 2017 #2577
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    Hi,


    Assuming a 64 bit system:

    RtSnMg64.cpl is in this folder : C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\hdxfts.inf_amd64_fad7406fc830bfee Copy it to C:\Windows\System32

    Not sure if it's calling a .dll file when it's loading but if anything's missing it would complain about that.
    In the mean time I'll see if I find any traces in the registry about it.

    Not sure but I think you can install the same driver version again in Windows CU by going the "Have disk" route.

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  8.    19 Jun 2017 #2578
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    fdegrove,
    Thanks for the pointer!
    I don't have a hdxfts.inf_amd64_fad7406fc830bfee folder in C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository, however I have the following folders in C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository:
    hdxthx.inf_amd64_2bba1378382de100 which is 6.0.1.8176
    hdxthx.inf_amd64_55943179df08f2d4 which is 6.0.1.7571 - I think this is just the one that ships with Windows as uninstalling will always fall back to this one.
    I already have the RtSnMg64.cpl file in C:\Windows\System32 which is identical to the hdxthx.inf_amd64_2bba1378382de100 except I don't see it in Control Panel.
    What I am trying to say is in Windows 10 versions prior to Creators Update, one was able to install the same driver version again by going the "Have Disk" route but Windows 10 Creators Update when you do the "Have Disk " route would not install as see my screenshot for exactly what it says. I select Update Driver, Browse my computer for driver software, select the folder where the driver is and then click Next. It does the searching of the directory I specified and then next comes the screen in the screenshot with no option to install.




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  9.    19 Jun 2017 #2579
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    Hi,

    What you describe is not the "Have disk" route I had in mind.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Have Disk.png  
    Last edited by fdegrove; 19 Jun 2017 at 14:23.
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  10.    19 Jun 2017 #2580
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    Hi,

    Haven't tried it yet on CU though. It may also not solve the problem.
    When you run the .cpl file from Win + R does it load ?

    Cheers,
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