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  1.    07 Feb 2017 #151
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    Serbia
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    Did you try to uninstall current drivers and let windows install one ?
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  2.    07 Feb 2017 #152
    Join Date : Apr 2016
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    Windows 10-64bit Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Did you try to uninstall current drivers and let windows install one ?
    The windows is installing the same driver as i have right now 6.0.1.8004
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  3.    07 Feb 2017 #153
    Join Date : May 2015
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64

    Quote Originally Posted by billneftleberg View Post
    heres mine:
    Attachment 120174

    but other times when update i'll see what yours says with a second line fir my monitors nvidia high definition audio output
    The name change in Device Manager only happens with onboard Realtek audio chips on DELL computers only.
    I can confirm this on my aunt's Dell Inspiron 580 computer using Realtek ALC3220 audio device using this hardware ID:
    "HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0887&SUBSYS_10280438"
    so billneftleberg, you must be using a Realtek audio device on a Dell brand computer (what kind of Dell PC do you use?). I do not get the shortened Realtek audio device name when used on other brands like HP, Toshiba, Sony, etc.

    THAT ID is specifically mentioned in the HDATHXD.INF and HDXTHXD.INF files and it looks like Realtek "shortened" the device names for their audio devices with SUBSYSTEM IDs beginning with "1028" which is the vendor ID for Dell. If I delete that HDXTHXD.INF file and let the Realtek audio driver setup program use the HDXRT.INF file instead to install the audio driver on my aunt's Dell computer, I'll get the regular Device manager name to "Realtek High Definition Audio" instead of the shortened "Realtek Audio" device name. Look at the INF files like HDXDELL.INF, HDXMaxxD.INF & HDXTHXD.INF and you'll see the shortened name change for the Realtek audio device on Dell systems.

    The name change has no effect on the audio hardware - it's JUST a name change, nothing more, nothing less.
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  4.    07 Feb 2017 #154
    Join Date : Aug 2016
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    windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by erpster4 View Post
    The name change in Device Manager only happens with onboard Realtek audio chips on DELL computers only.
    I can confirm this on my aunt's Dell Inspiron 580 computer using Realtek ALC3220 audio device using this hardware ID:
    "HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0887&SUBSYS_10280438"
    so billneftleberg, you must be using a Realtek audio device on a Dell brand computer (what kind of Dell PC do you use?). I do not get the shortened Realtek audio device name when used on other brands like HP, Toshiba, Sony, etc.

    THAT ID is specifically mentioned in the HDATHXD.INF and HDXTHXD.INF files and it looks like Realtek "shortened" the device names for their audio devices with SUBSYSTEM IDs beginning with "1028" which is the vendor ID for Dell. If I delete that HDXTHXD.INF file and let the Realtek audio driver setup program use the HDXRT.INF file instead to install the audio driver on my aunt's Dell computer, I'll get the regular Device manager name to "Realtek High Definition Audio" instead of the shortened "Realtek Audio" device name. Look at the INF files like HDXDELL.INF, HDXMaxxD.INF & HDXTHXD.INF and you'll see the shortened name change for the Realtek audio device on Dell systems.

    The name change has no effect on the audio hardware - it's JUST a name change, nothing more, nothing less.
    thank you erpster, great explanation too and yes I do have a dell pc. that really relieves my mind because with the name flip-flopping like that I thought that maybe my motherboard was having issues and in the process of dying.

    thank you for your great knowledge and understanding
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  5.    08 Feb 2017 #155
    Join Date : Jan 2016
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    Windows 10 Home 64-bit

    Version 6.0.1.8051 has been released on the Microsoft Update Catalog.

    Note that as I write this only 64-bit versions are available.
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  6.    08 Feb 2017 #156
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17040
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    Thank you Teejay. First post updated.
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  7.    08 Feb 2017 #157
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    Windows 10 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay3800 View Post
    Version 6.0.1.8051 has been released on the Microsoft Update Catalog.

    Note that as I write this only 64-bit versions are available.
    Thanks Teejay, I knew this would surface on MC sooner or later.
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  8.    08 Feb 2017 #158
    Join Date : Apr 2015
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    Windows 10 x64 v1703

    Quote Originally Posted by erpster4 View Post
    <snip>THAT ID is specifically mentioned in the HDATHXD.INF and HDXTHXD.INF files and it looks like Realtek "shortened" the device names for their audio devices with SUBSYSTEM IDs beginning with "1028" which is the vendor ID for Dell.
    GREAT catch erpster4!! Noticing that the first four characters of the SUBSYSTEM ID is the Dell vendor ID

    I think your find also helps answer a question from an earlier discussion in the thread
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    It wouldn't make sense to use HWids for sound chip (ALC889 for instance), they (chips) should be same across all MB makes. Interface is chosen by motherboard ID or something else that identifies it as let's say Gigabyte. <snip>
    @CountMike
    As an example, I did some random checks of HDAUDIO hwids on Gigabyte boards, and the first four characters of the SUBSYS ID of HDAUDIO hwids for Gigabyte boards appear to all begin 1458 = Gigabyte's vendor ID. So appears MB is, in fact, identified within the hwid.. not ACPI, BIOS or elsewhere. (Example below goes back to a Gigabyte board going back to XP)

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  9.    08 Feb 2017 #159
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    Serbia
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    Aha, I see it now, wonder what may be for let's say MSI ? I could do text search thru .INF files and replace number(s).
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  10.    08 Feb 2017 #160
    Join Date : Oct 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro X64

    Hi,

    MSI should be : 0x1462

    PCI Vendor and Device Lists

    Cheers,
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