Windows 10: Want to Upgrade a Pentium D 920 (Presler) to a Core Duo 2 Quad ?

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       10 Jul 2016 #1

    Want to Upgrade a Pentium D 920 (Presler) to a Core Duo 2 Quad ?


    You can see the specs under my avatar, but I have been checking around on websites and find confusing info. Some say yes, you can upgrade, others say the BIOS will not support it. I am using Windows 10 Forum because I have (Obviously) updated this PC from a Windows XP Pro Machine on a Pentium D 920, to a Windows 7, then to a dual boot Windows 7 Ultimate/Windows 10 Pro. It runs rather well, hard to believe but the newer GPU I installed has helped with the display, videos, and graphic rendering overall.

    I have upgraded 3 times, the GPU, and current have a cheaper priced very good fit for this PC, an MSI made Geforce 730 GT with GDDR5 (Works like a charm for $20 USD). I originally had a GT 9400 which was okay, but gave me a lot of problems when I finally was able to do the second major update to Windows 10 Pro, the 1511 version, build 10586.420. The first and original video card when I purchased this back in 2006, was an nForce 500 series. Wow, talk about old times! However, doing the recent graphics upgrades, I am amazed at the speed for web browsing, videos, and photo editing. I use this PC mainly for ESRI's ArcMap 10.3, which is a resource hog. When I put the newer GPU in, I noticed quite a better overall performance - on the graphics side, but of course that doesn't affect the CPU. I can get away with what I have, it really isn't bad at all, but if I could speed up opening programs, multitasking better, and overall performance not just in graphics, I would be willing to take the chance.

    Believe it or not, the Core Duo 2 Quad, that as a brand new processor is a HOT item, being a lot of DELL OptiPlex 750s (which are a lot of them out there throughout the world) have the ability to upgrade from a D to a Core Duo 2 quad. Having said that, I have seen brand new in box selling at over 1,000 USD. Most are going for near or at $400 USD. You can buy a used one on eBay, take a chance, and get one for $60-80 USD

    Okay, with that out of the way, can anyone guide me to a better source which will let me know if this Mobo can hold from a Pentium D 920 on Socket 775 LGA Motherboard, Intel - D975WT2G1, chipset i975x, core voltage at 1.29 65 nm, Instructions MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 EM64T VT-x, FSB @ 800 MHz, PCI Express x 16 (One), 3 other PCI slots. I can give you the CPU-Z screen shots if that is better...

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    Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. As far as I could see as a definite, I can upgrade to a higher Pentium D, or the Pentium Extreme Edition, just before they released the Core Duo. However, I have seen others who did the upgrade from a Pentium D to a Core Dou 2 Quad, Especially this one, which is VERY HIGH Priced New:
    Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q9450
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  2. Posts : 83
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       10 Jul 2016 #2

    jaxxxx said: View Post
    You can see the specs under my avatar, but I have been checking around on websites and find confusing info. Some say yes, you can upgrade, others say the BIOS will not support it. I am using Windows 10 Forum because I have (Obviously) updated this PC from a Windows XP Pro Machine on a Pentium D 920, to a Windows 7, then to a dual boot Windows 7 Ultimate/Windows 10 Pro. It runs rather well, hard to believe but the newer GPU I installed has helped with the display, videos, and graphic rendering overall.

    I have upgraded 3 times, the GPU, and current have a cheaper priced very good fit for this PC, an MSI made Geforce 730 GT with GDDR5 (Works like a charm for $20 USD). I originally had a GT 9400 which was okay, but gave me a lot of problems when I finally was able to do the second major update to Windows 10 Pro, the 1511 version, build 10586.420. The first and original video card when I purchased this back in 2006, was an nForce 500 series. Wow, talk about old times! However, doing the recent graphics upgrades, I am amazed at the speed for web browsing, videos, and photo editing. I use this PC mainly for ESRI's ArcMap 10.3, which is a resource hog. When I put the newer GPU in, I noticed quite a better overall performance - on the graphics side, but of course that doesn't affect the CPU. I can get away with what I have, it really isn't bad at all, but if I could speed up opening programs, multitasking better, and overall performance not just in graphics, I would be willing to take the chance.

    Believe it or not, the Core Duo 2 Quad, that as a brand new processor is a HOT item, being a lot of DELL OptiPlex 750s (which are a lot of them out there throughout the world) have the ability to upgrade from a D to a Core Duo 2 quad. Having said that, I have seen brand new in box selling at over 1,000 USD. Most are going for near or at $400 USD. You can buy a used one on eBay, take a chance, and get one for $60-80 USD

    Okay, with that out of the way, can anyone guide me to a better source which will let me know if this Mobo can hold from a Pentium D 920 on Socket 775 LGA Motherboard, Intel - D975WT2G1, chipset i975x, core voltage at 1.29 65 nm, Instructions MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 EM64T VT-x, FSB @ 800 MHz, PCI Express x 16 (One), 3 other PCI slots. I can give you the CPU-Z screen shots if that is better...

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    Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. As far as I could see as a definite, I can upgrade to a higher Pentium D, or the Pentium Extreme Edition, just before they released the Core Duo. However, I have seen others who did the upgrade from a Pentium D to a Core Dou 2 Quad, Especially this one, which is VERY HIGH Priced New:
    Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q9450
    By the way, if yu ever get to look at the "Reviews" for this Intel Based CPU, you will be amazed at the almost 100% fantastic reviews, ones from who had them originally from a PC like mine bought a year or so afterwards, say 2008, and still running after 3-4 GPU updates, RAM and other small priced updates, where they still can use this CPU on the mobo it was slotted in since 2007-2008... Amazing, never have I seen such overall reviews so positive, some go as far to say they do not build CPUs anymore like these to last as this one. I am also correcting my Title, the CPU should be called the Core 2 Quad.

    This is just a sample of an overall mirror to about 99.99% reviews regarding the Core 2 Quad:

    This review is from: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield Quad-Core 2.4 GHz LGA 775 BX80562Q6600 Processor
    Pros: Having purchased this processor for a custom build in 2007, I am still amazed at what it can handle in 2014. If you're trying to build a PC on a budget and can get your hands on one of these it will be well worth the money.
    Cons: Motherboards which support this chip-set are becoming scarce and expensive
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  3.    10 Jul 2016 #3

    you would need to know what bios version you are on (boot screen) and exactly what motherboard as Google cant find anything on the D975WT2G1 model no# you posted above , you'll need to did deeper , or see if you made a typo
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  4.    10 Jul 2016 #4

    Looks like a Typo , you missed the X

    D975XWT2G1

    I see a link saying it is a Gateway Motherboard made by Intel for them , and a note saying 975 chipset does support C2D's and maybe supported on the right Bios, so if you have a Gateway model number I'd check their website.

    http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showth...609#post470609


    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Gateway-FX-De...-/280412341336
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       10 Jul 2016 #5

    Kbird said: View Post
    Looks like a Typo , you missed the X

    D975XWT2G1

    I see a link saying it is a Gateway Motherboard made by Intel for them , and a note saying 975 chipset does support C2D's and maybe supported on the right Bios, so if you have a Gateway model number I'd check their website.

    http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showth...609#post470609


    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Gateway-FX-De...-/280412341336
    Yes, you are correct, I did miss a number, the eBay URL is exactly what I have:

    Gateway FX Desktop Motherboard FX510X LGA775 D975XWT2G1 (This number doesn't appear anywhere in the BIOS) >4006120R

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Gateway-FX-De...-/280412341336

    Going into BIOS:

    Gateway
    Intel Corporation
    Version: 54.100001.131
    S/N 0036516566

    Desktop Board Info:
    OEMD975XWT2G1
    Version: AAD3346-106
    S/N: BQW260600175

    Chassis: Gateway
    Version: WTN01A01
    S/N 0036516566
    XT and VT Enabled

    That is all I can find in the BIOS.
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  6. Posts : 83
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       10 Jul 2016 #6

    jaxxxx said: View Post
    Yes, you are correct, I did miss a number, the eBay URL is exactly what I have:

    Gateway FX Desktop Motherboard FX510X LGA775 D975XWT2G1 (This number doesn't appear anywhere in the BIOS) >4006120R

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Gateway-FX-De...-/280412341336

    Going into BIOS:

    Gateway
    Intel Corporation
    Version: 54.100001.131
    S/N 0036516566

    Desktop Board Info:
    OEMD975XWT2G1
    Version: AAD3346-106
    S/N: BQW260600175

    Chassis: Gateway
    Version: WTN01A01
    S/N 0036516566
    XT and VT Enabled

    That is all I can find in the BIOS.
    Going on the Gateway URL, the one that is pasted in the Forum you gave just takes me to the main website. I searched by serial number, nothing. I searched by Product number, and was able to see a list of downloads, the drop down list was either Vista 32 / 64, or XP 32 / 64

    I would choose from Windows XP being that was on here originally, correct?
    There is a chipset update dated back in 2010, when this machine was built in 2006, so I am assuming, that is the latest chipset to download. I just don't want to mess with the BIOS Update though, I have heard of nightmares doing this when it wasn't needed.
    Any thoughts?
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  7.    10 Jul 2016 #7

    No , the only thing that may help is a bios/firmware update , there is one newer than I see in CPUz pic above but the information in the Firmware package for your FX510 series MB ,no#

    4006120R - Intel (Watsonville 2) 975X Motherboard

    does not confirm C2D chip compatibility , it says it was to fix a S3 Resume issue but who knows if the CPU microcode was updated too?

    the bios is here , you can download it , unzip it, and read the txt files with it , then decide if you want to flash or not ....

    Updated: I guess they don't allow direct links? so............

    http://www.gateway.com/gw/en/US/cont...vers-downloads

    Product List>Desktop>500 Series>510> Bios and Firmware Tab


    corrected

    Product List>Desktop>FX Series>FX510s> Bios and Firmware Tab


    looks like your MB has Raid too , which may help with speed a bit in Raid 0 with two identical drives.
    Last edited by Kbird; 12 Jul 2016 at 01:25.
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  8.    10 Jul 2016 #8

    Here's a CPU support list for an Asus 975X board:

    P5W | Motherboards | ASUS Global


    At a guess, the board you have should support the same ones, but you may need a BIOS update.

    The link in post 7 goes 404.
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  9.    11 Jul 2016 #9

    bobkn said: View Post

    The link in post 7 goes 404.
    Thanks Bob , updated above , strange cos it worked yesterday when I tested it.
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  10.    11 Jul 2016 #10

    Kbird said: View Post
    Thanks Bob , updated above , strange cos it worked yesterday when I tested it.
    I think that the correct system is an FX510 (not a 500 series 510) with a "Watsonville" motherboard. There's BIOS update for it, but no mention of what CPUs it supports. Here's a direct link:

    http://global-download.gateway.com/G...TEWAY&SC=PA_6G

    It's dated 29 July, 2010.
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